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NRC Special Meeting Minutes 10/30/19 6:30 pm
Attending: David Crawford, Lisa Yankowski (clerk), Ray Gonda, Tim Hess, Duncan Murdoch,
Jean Chaulot.
Missing: Linda Chiasson, Laura Williams & Ashley Parker
Public: Alyson Chalnick, from the Dorset Meadows Developer Group- Peter Kahn, Bryan
Currier, Brett Bartlett, Dean Bartlett
1) David reviewed emergency procedures.
2) Additions to the agenda.
a. Letter from Ray Gonda to Marla Keene regarding reasons to oppose the
proposed Dorset Meadows Development.
b. Statement from Dorset Meadows requesting Ray to step away from the
discussions tonight due to a conflict of interest. Allyson is attending as a private
citizen and not a member of the NRC committee.
c. Ray declined to recuse himself per discussion with city attorney Andrew Bolduc,
that there is no conflict of interest. Peter’s opposition is due to Ray’s adamantly
& publicly stating his opposition to the proposed Dorset Meadows development
and that he is now trying to use the committee to further bring forth these
feelings.
i. Ray’s rebuttal – “The comments were made when he was not a member
of the NRC but a private citizen with no financial investment in the
development- no conflict.”
ii. Lisa then asked if her statement in front of the city council after a
presentation by the Open Space Group was a conflict of interest. It is
not.
Tim wondered if it was a conflict for Ray to participate in the evening’s
discussions if he did not participate in any votes. David explain that Ray could
cause a mis-vote if we voted on his letter.
6:30 pm the committee decide to proceed with the meeting.
3) No public comments.
4) Chairs comments- David wanted to remind everyone that despite what we decide or
don’t decide to present to the DRB- we must remain respectful and recognize all points
and thoughts. He is also concerned that the newest member s of the committee may
not have been completely presented with the NRC’s prior information and requests
regarding the Dorset Meadows plans.
a. The Dorset Meadows Group gave us the presentation they had given the group
previously.
i. Ray asked us to refer to his letter to the DRB. (This is the letter he
composed and was to, possibly, be voted on tonight. There was a
moratorium in the city- land was being developed too fast without
enough thought as to the overall consequences. Decisions were being
done piecemeal- as a new project came to the city for approval. This is
why we now have Interim Zoning in place. The Dorset Meadows plans
were being considered before IZ started.) He explained why he feels
where the buildings will be not a good plan. One of the areas would
fragment space around the great swamp and affect the wildlife corridor.
ii. Tim asked if the plans had changed due to comments. David answered
that the NRC had made recommendations the DRB had not considered.
Lisa and Duncan had expressed concerns about a preserving connectivity,
a culvert and any guard rails that might impede wildlife movement. This
was considered. They still need to go before Act 250 on the state level.
b. Paul, (Dorset Meadows group) said they wanted to come tonight because they
were feeling there had been a change in the feelings coming from the NRC. They
wanted to present some of the history leading up to today.
i. Before 2006, the South East Quadrant (SEQ), was zoned as a single area.
2004 Arrowwood did a study of the natural resources in the SEQ. The
report led to zoning changes, took 50% of the area off from being
developed and instilled a 300ft buffer around the great swamp. TDRs
were created to protect the property owners in the SEQ.
c. DM presented their plans to the city who required certain changes. Staff, Public
Works, Rec Path, Storm Water …….. all had suggestions they would like to see,
including the NRC. The DRB had other changes and preliminary plat approval
was received. The developers have also met with the state, the Army Corp of
Engineers and had archeological studies done. The approval meets the
Comprehensive Plan goals.
d. DM wanted to convey that the area for development is only part of the whole
parcel that can be developed. A large part cannot be developed. They have
done everything and felt Ray’s letter follows too closely to the views of the group
suing to prevent the development. They feel they are being bullied by a group
who have their large homes and have stated they will keep filing suits because of
deep pockets. They also felt they were being ambushed by the NRC.
1. Allyson to offense at this comment and reiterated that she had
moved here from Maryland and bought a house that was already
built.
2. Ray asked how many people were on the NRC previously. We
believe 5 or 6. David, Lisa & Duncan were only the NRC originally.
David is concerned with how we handle the proposed letter to the DRB. The wording makes it
sound like the NRC is stating opposition to the development. How will the group be perceived
on future projects. We have a passion towards natural resources that needs to be preserved.
Ray disagrees with the “opposition against”.
We want to keep being able to provide feedback and suggestions to protect natural resources
on future projects. Duncan acknowledged that some of our suggestions did result in changes to
the DM plans.
Ray moved we vote on the letter as policy with amendments Duncan questioned the “no
amendments”. But Ray felt there were no needed changes.
Duncan motioned to continue the meeting to 8:15pm, Jean 2nd. 6 voted aye- approved.
Jean felt the letter’s first sentence was brutal and many changes had been made to the
approved plans and perhaps we needed to do more exploration. Tim asked if the city wants the
opinion or statements from any of the other committees. The letter is trying to set policy. Per
Ray- our Mission Statement is to sustain….. advise……… ADVISE is the keyword.
Note: most departments and committees don’t actually state approval of a project. They look
at a project, comment and make suggestions. The DRB is the final arbitrator. The developer
feels they will have final plat approval within 2 meetings with the DRB. Ray is afraid they will be
approved before the NRC can do any further exploration
DM still needs Act 250 approval and some of the NRC members wish to become involved in the
process. This would have to be allowed by the city. Jean motioned and volunteered to work
with the city at the Act 250 hearing so the NRC will have a voice. Lisa 2nd. 5- yeah Ray
abstained.
Discussion of the letter is being left. Ray would like the group at the DRB meeting 11/5. Tim
would like a document of what was done, results, discussions on this project- for our files. What
happened, what didn’t happen.
Lisa motioned to adjourn at 8:30pm, Tim 2nd. 5 ayes- Ray abstained.