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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Steering Committee - 06/03/2015STEERING COMMITTEE 3 JUNE 2015 The South Burlington Steering Commiee held a meeng on Wednesday, 3 June 2015, at 6:00 p.m., in the Library of the Tule Middle School, Dorset Street. Members Present: City Council: P. Nowak, Steering Commiee Chair; C. Shaw, H. Riehle, M. Emery, T. Chienden; K. Dorn, City Manager; School Board: E. Fitzgerald, M. Lalonde, D. Fleming, J. Beay; D. Young, Superintendent of Schools Also Present: T. Hubbard, Deputy City Manager; J. Stewart, School District; P. Conner, Director of Planning & Zoning; A. Klugo, B. Chatman, C. Haer, B. Nowak, J. JPatrick, P. Rouille, J Wilking, P.Cope, P. Burke, P. Engels, A. Crocker, C. Weed, A. Margulies, C. Sheffield, G. Boudoin, other community members 1. Agenda Review: Addions, deleons or changes in order of agenda items: No changes were made to the Agenda. 2. Approval of 21 January 2015 Steering Commiee Meeng Minutes: Mr. Shaw moved to approve the Minutes of 21 January 2015 as wrien. Ms. Fitzgerald seconded. Moon passed unanimously. 3. Presentaon by representaves of the Master Planning & Visioning Task Force – Final Report: Ms. Nowak recognized and thanked all members of the Task Force and noted the outstanding effort they had put into their work. Mr. Klugo and Mr. Chatman then presented the report. Mr. Klugo also cited the number of hours put in by Task Force members and consultants. He noted that not all of the recommendaons were unanimously supported, and there will be a minority report. Five of the six components of the report had 100% consensus; there were 2 minority votes on school configuraon. The charge of the Task Force was to consider opons for the future and to develop consensus on key aspects of South Burlington’s future. Some of the areas considered in carrying out this STEERING COMMITTEE 3 JUNE 2015 PAGE 2 charge were: quality of life, economic growth, demographics, school enrollment trends, inequalies, condion of facilies, etc. Mr. Klugo stressed that their task was not to recommend a sale or no sale of Central School. Key components of the report include: 21st century learning, elementary schools, middle schools (either 5-8 or 6-8), sustaining a livable, enjoyable community, a City Center vision (it was noted that the schools own land that will affect a City Center vision), and State of Vermont repayment obligaons (the Task Force learned that if any of the schools are sold, the fund that the State loaned to build the school(s) would have to be repaid. This could amount to $2,000,000 or more per school. With regard to 21st Century learning, Mr. Chatman said the Task Force recommendaon is to establish a 21st Century Learning Commiee to develop educaonal goals across all grades and to idenfy associated costs. This Commiee would consist of professionals, educators, community members, past and present students. The Task Force recommends that this Commiee’s work be completed by the end of 2015. Mr. Klugo said the recommendaons regarding elementary schools are to consolidate from the exisng 3 elementary schools to one of 2 configuraons: #1 – 2 elementary schools: Orchard with grades K-2, and a new school with grades 3-5 #2 – 1 elementary school with grades K-4. The 5th grade would then move to the Middle School which would undergo some renovaons to accommodate the 5th graders. The minority votes were for 2 K-4 schools at Orchard School and a new school. Concerns were that this opon would require more renovaons and doesn’t address inequies. The Task Force also recommends establishing a Transion Commiee to determine how the consolidaon would happen. Mr. Klugo noted the Task Force did not have a community survey, and the recommendaon is that the Transion Commiee conduct such a survey. Mr. Klugo stressed that there are as yet no recent appraisals of all the schools. The Task Force recommends that all appraisals be updated to be sure school values are understood. STEERING COMMITTEE 3 JUNE 2015 PAGE 3 Mr. Chatman said that one concern at Orchard School is that with a new school being built, both schools would have to be on a par in order to have equity. With regard to the Middle School and High School, Mr. Chatman said the Task Force recommends establishing a commiee to determine how to implement 21st Century learning recommendaons. Neither school is equipped or laid out for 21st Century learning (e.g., problem solving learning). Mr. Klugo drew aenon to a diagram on how 21st Century learning could take place. Looking at a “community vision,” Task Force members recommend designang Chamberlin and possibly Orchard School for community or civic uses, depending on which opon is chosen. Mr. Chatman noted that the Task Force recommends that Central School be designated for redevelopment. The Task Force suggests that a Central School Redevelopment Commiee be formed and consist of people with the appropriate experse (e.g., finance). They also recommend an RFP to see what the redevelopment potenal is. With regard to the potenal repayment of State funding, the Task Force recommends that the school district determine an appropriate path to address this. Mr. Klugo asked that Steering Commiee members have comments back to the Task Force in 2 weeks. A final report will then be draed. Ms. Riehle asked what the thinking was in selecng Orchard School to connue as a school and have Chamberlin as “something else.” Mr. Chatman said there were a number of consideraons including: Chamberlin has the smallest populaon of all the schools, the land space at Chamberlin could best meet community needs, Chamberlin has a problem with Airport noise, and Chamberlin is an old building in need of renovaon. Mr. Chatman commented that somemes the cost of sustaining something is more than the cost of doing something new. Mr. Klugo said there was also a demographic issue. Many homes in the Chamberlin area are being demolished. Chamberlin might beer serve as a neighborhood “center.” Ms. Emery said that having her children go to a neighborhood school was a major factor in moving to South Burlington. She cited the issue of having to transport children to other parts of STEERING COMMITTEE 3 JUNE 2015 PAGE 4 the city. Mr. Klugo responded that all schools are “community schools.” Whatever site is selected for a new school could also take potenal development into consideraon. He noted that there is sll a lot of development going on in the Orchard School area. Mr. Chatman said the Task Force did an overlay of where children in the schools come from, and many of them don’t come from around the schools they aend. Mr. Lalonde asked if there will be a cost/benefit analysis for all the opons. Mr. Klugo said there will. They will also provide a cost for 21st Century learning. One opon is to do a “modified” 21st Century learning and spend 80% on that and use the rest of the money to update other facilies. Mr. Fleming asked if any of the recommendaons are more important than others. Mr. Klugo said the School District holds the real estate that is important in all of this. The 21st Century learning element is also crical. It will define which schools to keep. Aer that, other work can move forward. Mr. Klugo felt the RFP could be concurrent with a 21st Century learning commiee. Ms. Nowak cited the need for extensive community educaon on how the recommendaons and the numbers evolved. She added that having aended some of the meengs she could then understand the logiscal sense of the recommendaons. Mr. Klugo stressed that any discussion of costs has to start with “embedded costs.” Then the community can understand the opons of invesng in the current schools or doing something new with the same money. Mr. Klugo said the Task Force has been looking at the numbers for 8 months; if anything isn’t clear, people should let them know. Mr. Shaw asked how much thought was given to pre-K issues. Mr. Chatman said there was a lot of discussion. There are many private providers who are doing a good job. The district needs to see where the State is going on this. The Task Force did not include pre-K in figuring beyond what is already exisng in the schools. Mr. Klugo added that they don’t know if maintaining the pre-K programs in the school buildings would remove the obligaon to repay the bonds to the State. Mr. Chatman noted that a pre-K use was one suggeson for Chamberlin, along with other community acvies. STEERING COMMITTEE 3 JUNE 2015 PAGE 5 Ms. Sheffield said she wasn’t sure the opons are the best for students and that they serve City Center best. Another community member asked how the “community feeling” would be maintained with a K-2 school. Mr. Klugo stressed that this was a school-driven process. Data collecon was done independent of City Center. Mr. Chatman added that “community” depends on the quality of relaonships regardless of configuraons. He said there will be challenges, but he believed that the community’s heart and soul is with the kids. He also said he believes South Burlington doesn’t need 3 elementary schools any more as school populaons are going down. Mr. Klugo said the kids will do great. They always do. Mr. Margulies thanked the Task Force. He felt there is a need for beer “visibility.” He noted that people believe the schools are the number one reason for living in South Burlington. He asked what the process will be going forward. A rered teacher/principal suggested the Task Force consult with other towns that have consolidated elementary schools. Mr. Klugo said their consultant does this across the country. Mr. Chatman noted there are larger elementary schools in Vermont that are doing very well. Ms. Nowak noted the work of the Task Force was not easy. They had 18 4-hour meengs. She stressed that there will be a process that is not decided overnight. She also reminded people that the city does not own the schools; they are owned by the School District. There would have to be a public vote to sell any school. People were encouraged to submit comments to the City Manager and/or Superintendent of Schools. As there was no further business to come before the Steering Commiee, Ms. Emery moved to adjourn. Mr. Lalonde seconded. Moon passed unanimously, and the meeng was adjourned at 7:15 p.m. _________________________. Clerk