HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Steering Committee - 05/02/2016STEERING COMMITTEE 2 MAY 2016
The South Burlington Steering Commi ee held a mee ng on Monday, 2 May 2016, at 5:30 p.m., in the
Conference Room, City Hall, 575 Dorset Street.
MEMBERS PRESENT: City Council: P. Nowak, T. Chi enden, M. Emery, H. Riehle, T. Barri ; K. Dorn, City
Manager; School Board: E. Fitzgerald, Steering Commi ee Chair; J. Bea y, B. Burkhardt, P. Leduc; D. Young,
Superintendent of Schools
ALSO PRESENT: T. Hubbard, Deputy City Manager; J. Stewart, School District; I. Blanchard, City Program
Manager; S. Dooley, J. Kochman other members of the public
1. Agenda Review: Addi ons, dele ons or changes in the order of Agenda items:
No changes were made to the Agenda.
2. Comments & Ques ons from the Audience, not related to the Agenda:
No issues were raised.
3. City Center Presenta on:
Ms. Blanchard reviewed resolu ons already passed by the City Council, including capital projects (Market
Street, New Town Center, City Center Reserve Fund, Garden Street, etc.). Items to come before the Council this
year include the TIF Policy, Bonded Debt for Projects, Public Facili es Impact Fee, and the proposed Arena.
Funding for City Center projects would include TIF (tax incremental financing), City Center Reserve Fund, impact
fees, grants). TIF money could be used for projects such as Market Street, Garden Street, a City Center Park, an
an cipated bridge over I-89, structured parking, stormwater, and wetland mi ga on. Ms. Blanchard stressed
that the city has flexibility and can match City Center infrastructure build-out to available funding.
With regard to the City Center Reserve Fund, Mr. Hubbard noted that $1,400,000 has already been collected
since 2013. This amount will be over $2,000,000 in July. The money can be used to fund such things as a new
Community Library, a City Hall (or a combina on of Library and City Hall), the joint Arena project with UVM (the
Arena could include some “satellite” facili es for the Recrea on Department), and City Center streetscape. The
city’s share of public facili es is already built into the property tax, so there would be no addi onal tax.
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Regarding the proposed Arena, Mr. Dorn said it would be located somewhere in the City Center area. There will
be a report back to the City Council on this by 15 August. An economic and marke ng analysis is currently
being done by UVM. There is a high probability that the City will look to finance its share through the local
op on tax. The City would own the building and lease it back to UVM. The project cost is $50,000,000-
60,000,000. The City’s share would be half of the amount. The City would ask for an addi onal 1 cent on local
op ons taxes (rooms, meals, alcohol, and sales). This would sunset when the debt for the arena is paid off
(approximately 20 years). Mr. Dorn said it appears UVM is doing well with their fund-raising. Mr. Dorn also
noted that the hospitality industry is OK with the addi onal 1 cent tax as long as it is dedicated to this use.
Ms. Fitzgerald asked about opera ng expenses for the Arena. The City would have all the opera ng expenses;
UVM would have a lease for use of the facility.
Mr. Barri asked about parking. Mr. Dorn said the Arena would be subject to Transporta on Demand
Management. This is now being worked on. There also could be another parking facility. Ms. Blanchard added
that people are already used to taking alterna ve means to get to Gu erson.
Mr. LeDuc asked if there would be an increase in traffic during the day hours. Mr. Dorn said the Arena would be
used mostly on weekend a ernoons and evenings. There could also be some conven on use and possibly
hockey tournaments, etc.
Ms. Riehle said the Arena could serve as an “anchor,” instead of a big box store.
Mr. Chi enden asked about the projected $18,000,000 for a city recrea on facility. Ms. Blanchard said this was
from a report presented to the city in 2013 and was a rough es mate provided by Pizzagalli. Ms. Riehle noted
that the projected cost for a facility for recrea ons, a City Hall, and a Library was $34,000,000. Mr. Hubbard
said that recrea on space is the most expensive, and the feeling is that a lot of it can be accommodated in the
proposed Arena. He also said that J.C Park would have smaller uses that fit the neighborhood, probably at a
$3,000,000-4,000,000 cost. This would serve mostly young families and seniors. Ms. Riehle noted the O’Brien
building at J.C. Park is in bad shape, and the city is talking with the O’Briens about a poten al new building.
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Mr. LeDuc asked how the TIF policy works with maintaining Marco e School. Mr. Dorn said it does not “work”
at all; it is a policy on how the city evaluates investment.
Mr. Barri asked where the Library would be. Mr. Dorn said the City is talking with several property owners and
a poten al property owner about that.
Mr. Dorn also noted it is hoped that construc on on Market Street will begin in September, 2017.
4. Master Plan Visioning of School Board:
Mr. LeDuc noted that the Board is keeping an eye on development pressure in City Center near the Marco e
School.
There is also informa on regarding another district that is talking about a possible consolida on with South
Burlington.
The consultant hired by the Board recommended a one-school op on. By a straw voted, op ons 4 and 5 are
less likely because of cost, and the Board is spending less me on those op ons.
Grand Isle County has formed an Act 46 commi ee and has approached South Burlington regarding some sort
of consolida on. There are some significant deadlines and a vote is needed by 30 June 2017 with a plan being
opera onal in some form by 2019.
Supt. Young explained that there are tax considera ons that encourage merging of school districts (he noted
that Essex Town and Essex Junc on are doing this). Mr. LeDuc said there would be representa ves from Grand
Isle Communi es on the School Board if a merger occurs.
Mr. Chi enden noted the risk: if the elementary students go to Colchester, the high school students would go
there as well instead of to South Burlington as they do now.
Supt. Young noted a merger would require a “yes” vote from all par cipa ng communi es.
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Supt. Young then briefly outlined the 5 poten al scenarios being considered by the Board:
Scenario 1: All schools stay open, stewardship only (cost $9,000,000)
Scenario 2: All schools stay open, stewardship and upgrades to all (high school $20,000,000; Middle
School $9,000,000; li le done to the elementary schools (total cost $41,000,000)
Scenario 3: Close Chamberlin School; Middle School grades 5-8, Orchard and Marco e K-4, upgrades
to all schools, stewardship to all (cost $36,000,000)
Scenario 4:` Close Chamberlin and Marco e; stewardship and upgrades at all schools (cost
$51,000,000)
Scenario 5: Close all exis ng elementary schools; new Pre-K-4 school, Middle School 5-8 (cost
$64,000,000).
Ms. Riehle asked if more capacity would be needed at the schools if there were to be a merger with Grand Isle.
Supt. Young said they are at a very basic look at that.
A member of the audience asked why Chamberlin would be the choice to close and whether that might be
because of Airport noise. Supt. Young said there are a number of considera ons including school popula on
(Chamberlin is the smallest at just over 200 students). Mr. Stewart said there are 120-140 more students at
Marco e and Orchard Schools.
Supt. Young cited the challenge of trying to stay in a building while it is being renovated.
Ms. Riehle asked the capacity of the High School. Supt. Young said it is about 1000, and they are just over that
number now. He also noted that a new High School could be built while the current school remains in use. The
current school could then come down.
Supt. Young then reviewed an es mate of taxes with each scenario. For an average home in South Burlington
today, the taxes for city and school are $7614. By 2026, with Scenario #1, that figure (including natural growth)
would be $9190; with Scenario #2, $9510; with Scenario #3 $9305; with Scenario #4 $9512; and with Scenario
#5 $9663.
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Mr. LeDuc said the Board is grappling with a lot of data including what happens to neighborhoods, the value of
larger/smaller school, etc.
Ms. Kochman asked about the vision for 21st century educa on and a facility that would accommodate that
with a be er dynamic and more flexibility. She asked how schools could be restructured for that under
scenarios #2 and #3. Supt. Young said that with Scenario #2, there would not be much change from what is
there now; with Scenario #3, more focus would be on K-4, but not much more.
Supt. Young stressed that the cost to renovate could be more than the cost to build. There is also the ques on
of ming, which is cri cal.
Ms. Fitzgerald said the Board is dealing with equity issues with schools on “so er” issues, first with
programming, then with brick and mortar.
Ms. Nowak said that as Market Street gets developed, the school neighborhood/ambiance will change, and
that is why she is disappointed that Scenarios 4 and 5 will have the least amount of me spent on them. She
felt that poten al should be balanced with having a new school someplace.
As there was no further business to come before the Steering Commi ee, the mee ng was adjourned by
common consent at 7:00 p.m.
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