HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Affordable Housing Committee - 10/02/2017Approved on October 17, 2017
AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE
October 2, 2017, 4:00 PM, City Hall
Members attending: Tom Bailey, Leslie Black-Plumeau, Sandy Dooley, Michael Simoneau, John
Simson (Chair)
Others: Monica Ostby, Planning Commission liaison; Eric Farrell (invited guest), Larry Kupferman,
SoBu Housing Trust Fund chair (also, invited guest); Larry Michaels
Minutes by Sandy Dooley
AGENDA
1. Welcome
2. Agenda Review: Additions, deletions or changes in order of agenda items
3. Comments and questions from the public not related to the agenda
4. Review and approve minutes of September 19, 2017, Committee meeting.
5. Quick review of John’s revised outline of inclusionary zoning issues
6. Welcome Eric Farrell and discuss expanded inclusionary zoning in the City and other housing
issues
7. Meet with Larry Kupferman, SoBu Housing Trust Fund chair
8. Discuss Committee’s position re UVM property sale
9. New business
10. Adjourn
1. Welcome: John called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m. and welcomed Larry Michaels, attending
as a member of the public, who has applied to be appointed to the Affordable Housing committee.
2. Agenda review: No changes proposed or made.
3. Comments, etc.: There were no comments from the public.
4. Review and approval of minutes of September 19, 2017, committee meeting:
Mike moved and Tom seconded motion to approve second draft of the September 19, 2017, meeting
minutes as circulated. Motion approved unanimously.
5. Quick review of John’s revised outline of inclusionary zoning issues
John called to committee’s attention his second outline of inclusionary zoning issues and raised the
subject of whether multi-family structures should be permitted in all neighborhoods (i.e. zoning
districts). Multi-family structures are those that include three or more dwellings units in a single
structure. Question: in which City zoning districts are multi-family structures currently prohibited (i.e.
where would this be a change)? Should the City propose permitting multi-family structures where not
currently permitted there may be push-back. Monica mentioned possibility of special building height
regulations on Shelburne Road corridor.
Further discussion was deferred due to Eric Farrell’s arrival and moving on to next agenda item.
6. Welcome Eric Farrell and discuss expanded inclusionary zoning in the City and other housing
issues
Eric shared monthly market rate and affordable rents on one- and two-bedroom apartments that he is
charging in Burlington.
One-bedroom: Market - $1,450, Affordable - $1,190, difference - $260, long term loss - $48,000
Two-bedroom: Market - $1,825, Affordable - $1,425, difference - $400, long term loss - $73,850
Eric mentioned “loophole” in Burlington’s IZ rules; it is that if the developer sells lots and not housing,
the IZ regulation does not apply.
Question: what makes an IZ rule more doable for the developer?
Equity considerations: While externally the market units should not be distinguishable from the
affordable units, it is important for developers to have flexibility on finishings inside the units (e.g.
Formica vs. granite countertops, room size, etc.). Burlington has minimum unit sizes (requirement
differs depending on number of bedrooms) for IZ units, which Eric considers problematic. (Sandy will
review SoBu’s IZ regulations re how unit size is addressed.) Burlington allows differences in parking
for market vs. affordable units. Cambrian Rise plan has two parking spaces per unit for market units
and one parking space per unit for affordable units.
Eric: waiving fees is “small potatoes.”
More density is a plus.
Question: does NIMBY opposition to allowing higher density result in developer not receiving
approval for maximum density bonus?
Eric’s experience is that it does not cause this. For Cambrian Rise, maximum density for plan is 770
units; he plans to build 739 units. The reasons for fewer than maximum units being approved relate to
lot coverage, parking, other technical requirements, and what works for the particular development.
When asked about the idea of minimum density requirements, Eric indicated unfamiliarity with this
concept and wondered how it would work.
Question: have Burlington’s IZ rules resulted in more affordable housing being built than would have
been built under voluntary approach (i.e. primarily density bonuses)?
Eric’s perception is that Burlington’s IZ requirements have not resulted in more affordable housing
being developed and, in addition, it is his view that the IZ requirement slowed housing development
during the many years it has been in effect. Committee members brought to Eric’s attention the
research article that Leslie had shared and its conclusion that, in strong housing markets, IZ does
increase the number of affordable units built (Burlington’s experience with IZ was included in this
study). Eric’s response was that there is really no way to know, one way or another, what would have
happened in Burlington without IZ.
Title and link for research article referenced above: Center for Housing Policy, Separa ng Fact from Fic on to
Design Effec ve Inclusionary Housing Programs
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Question: what about mixed use in multi-unit apartment buildings?
Eric: more and more, people want to live, work, and play in same neighborhood. Cambrian Rise will have
ample space for the kind of services/uses that make a neighborhood attractive in this way; e.g., day care, food
service, fitness centers, personal services (e.g., massage therapist), and small offices for professionals. He
expects that these spaces will be rented promptly.
Question: what about using greater height than has been used to date to achieve greater density?
Eric: five stories is structural height limit for wood-frame construction. He would love to be able to use steel
and concrete construction but the market will not support the rents that the cost of steel and concrete would
generate. Eric re wood-frame construction: sound transmission from unit to unit is virtually impossible to
eliminate and, as a result, can be problematic.
Question: what is happening with Burlington’s IZ regulations?
A large committee has been appointed whose purpose to review the current regulations and make
recommendations for improvements. It has met once to date. Eric (Farrell) and Erik Hoekstra are the
developers on the committee. Gillian Nanton of City of Burlington is coordinating the committee’s work. Mike
suggested that the SoBu committee might want to identify ways to keep apprised of the Burlington committee’s
work.
Committee members thanked Eric for his time and input.
7. Meet with Larry Kupferman, SoBu Housing Trust Fund chair
Committee members welcomed Larry. Larry said that only “rule” he was aware of was that Housing
Trust Fund dollars were to be used to support housing that is affordable to households having
incomes no greater that 80 percent of AMI (Area Median Income for the household size). Kevin Dorn,
City Manager, had communicated this “rule” to him. Larry and committee members present agreed
that the “80 percent rule” is not a legal restriction under any SoBu regulation or ordinance.
Committee members suggested procedural and policy related by-laws would be beneficial for the
Housing Trust Fund. Under procedural were mentioned: number of trustees, how and how often the
chair is determined, definition of a quorum. Under policy: conflict of interest, the household income
requirements and percentage of affordable units in a development necessary for an applicant to be
eligible to apply for Trust Fund dollars, and the requirement that all affordable units be perpetually
affordable. Larry (Kupferman) agreed that these topics would be good to include in by-laws and
encouraged the committee to provide additional advice and guidance re the development of by-laws.
Mike mentioned that Larry might review the Recreation and Parks Committee’s by-laws for structure
and content (though Mike was not implying that the Trust Fund needed by-laws as extensive as
these). John suggested that Larry arrange, through Kevin, to meet with City Attorney Andrew Bolduc
to have Andrew draft the by-laws.
Committee next discussed with Larry identification of folks to apply for vacancy on Housing Trust Fund
board. Larry welcomed committee’s assistance. Monica mentioned someone that works at Gallagher,
Flynn whom Monica believes would be a good match. John mentioned Ian Squirrel. Larry
(Kupferman) said he would seek to identify folks to encourage to apply.
8. Discuss Committee’s position re UVM property sale
Brief summary: the VonTurkovich’s have purchased UVM land off NW corner of Spear and Swift
streets with intent to develop housing there. Access will be from Spear and Swift streets. Housing will
be targeted to “work force” population (rentals < 80% AMI; ownership < 120% AMI). Total of 176
units: 96 rental units in four buildings (24 units in each, one building for senior housing) and 80
ownership housing, perhaps, duplexes and quaplexes. They are purchasing adjacent house and lot on
Swift Street so that development can be connected to East Woods natural area (owned by UVM)
Committee sees potential connection (possibly positive or negative) with multiple City goals; e.g.
Recreation and Parks, Bicycle and Pedestrian, Natural Resources, and Affordable Housing. Not
enough is known about the development for the committee to take a position at this stage.
Developers have not submitted request for zoning (LDR) change to Planning Commission.
Committee would like development, when more clearly specified, to be assessed by relevant City
committees from a holistic perspective.
John will write VonTurkovich’s indicating committee’s interest in the project but defer requesting a
meeting until more is known. Committee’s suggestion is for developers to meet first with those entities
likely to have greatest concerns (South Burlington Land Trust [NGO] and SoBu Natural Resources
Committee).
9. New (and Old) Business
Outstanding topics for committee discussion/exploration (not an all-inclusive list):
● Results of Leslie’s research re “Priority Housing” in VT statutes and its relationship to Act 250.
● Paul Conner’s email to Sandy on subject of interaction of committee’s proposed new definition
of affordable housing and density bonus provision of LDRs (will forward again)
● Results of Sandy’s research re SoBu LDRs vis-à-vis height restrictions (will forward again)
● Results of Sandy’s review of SoBu LDRs regarding unit size requirements for affordable units
under City Center IZ rules.
Dates for upcoming meetings: October 17, November 13, and November 27 (all at 4:00 p.m.,
City Hall, Second Floor Conference Room)
10. Adjourn – Leslie moved and Tom seconded that the meeting be adjourned. Committee
approved motion unanimously at 5:55 p.m.