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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMP-24-03 - Supplemental - 0850 Hinesburg Road (30)1 Marla Keene From:Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Sent:Monday, October 7, 2024 2:04 PM To:dmarshall@cea-vt.com Cc:Matt Guerino; 'Keith Wright'; Marla Keene; sleppert@cea-vt.com; Nate Pion; Matt Guerino Subject:EXTERNAL: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water This message has originated from an External Source. Please use proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email. Dave Starting with your earlier email; I have met with the Chief Engineer of CWD regarding the tap location for the proposed 1-1/2” line to serve Phase I of this project. The South Burlington Water Department together with the Champlain Water District maintain that the proposed tap be south of the FCV on Hinesburg Rd. As stated in my email of 9/26/2024, the location of the FCV was put there to best supply what is now DR Power Equipment’s fire service demands, that being directly off the CWD transmission line. Neither CWD nor the SBWD want to set precedent to provide water to any more new customers off that section of pipe between the CWD main and the FCV since there is a City owned water main fronting along this property. Regarding the 8” water line to be installed as Phase 2 of the project moves forward, the connection on the Lane Press-Dynapower line will require the approval of those two companies, as that line is private and not owned by the City. The location appears to meet our earlier comments, although I don’t see a fire hydrant located on the line anywhere. I want to again make it clear that I am not granting approval at this time but will when the project is submitted to the City for review comments. Let me know if you have any questions. Matt Guerino will be taking my place when I retire at the end of the year. Please include him in all further email correspondence. Jay Nadeau Distribution Division Director Champlain Water District Direct: (802) 861-4817 Cell: (802) 497-7195 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 12:55 PM To: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org>; 'Keith Wright' <Keith@kwrightinc.com>; Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>; sleppert@cea-vt.com Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water 2 This email originated from outside of the District. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. HI Jay & Matt- Please find attached the WGM Associates Master Plan which shows the proposed 8” water main (cyan blue highlight) to be installed when Phase 2 of the project moves forward. We would like your input as to the compliance with your earlier guidance on the connection points, size, routing primarily through green space and being located within the Phase I proposed and future phase right-of-way. The connection south of the Control Valve will require an easement as there is no roadway right-of-way proposed through that portion of the property. Best Regards David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 11:33 AM To: 'Jay Nadeau' <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Cc: 'Matt Guerino' <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org>; 'Keith Wright' <Keith@kwrightinc.com> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water Hi Jay- Thank you for the time to provide these responses. The Wright’s have indicated that they would like to pursue the ability to place a 1.5” service line off of the line that services the DR Power Equipment’s fire service demands. What will be required to initiate this request? Best Regards David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 From: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2024 11:38 AM To: dmarshall@cea-vt.com Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org>; 'Keith Wright' <Keith@kwrightinc.com>; Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org>; Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water 3 Gentlemen Circling back to the questions Dave asked yesterday that I could not answer. Question 1a: The tap must be located south of the flow control vault that is located near the southern driveway entrance. The water line south of the flow control valve vault is a South Burlington water distribution main supplied from the Dorset St water storage tank. The line north of the FCV is tapped directly off the CWD transmission main and only opens in emergency conditions. 2a: The master plan for this property will likely show a loop from Hinesburg Rd to the water line that supplies Lane Press and Dynapower. For the reason explained for question 1a, the Hinesburg Rd tap must be south of the FCV. 2b. A proposal to tap the Hinesburg Rd main for a 1.5” line can be made, but the SBWD and CWD will both have to respond. The location of the FCV was put there to best supply what is now DR Power Equipment’s fire service demands, that being directly off the CWD transmission line. That was an exception and not the norm, so additional residential taps off that section of pipe will require CWD and SBWD collaboration. I want to make it clear that I am not granting approval at this time but will when the project is submitted to the City for review comments. Let me know if you have any questions. Matt Guerino will be taking my place when I retire at the end of the year. Please include him in all further email correspondence. Jay Nadeau Distribution Division Director Champlain Water District Direct: (802) 861-4817 Cell: (802) 497-7195 From: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 3:51 PM To: dmarshall@cea-vt.com Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org>; 'Keith Wright' <Keith@kwrightinc.com>; Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org>; Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water Gentlemen Responses in RED Matt Guerino will be taking my place when I retire at the end of the year. Please include him in all further email correspondence. Jay Nadeau Distribution Division Director Champlain Water District Direct: (802) 861-4817 Cell: (802) 497-7195 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 1:02 PM To: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> 4 Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org>; 'Keith Wright' <Keith@kwrightinc.com> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water This email originated from outside of the District. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Jay & Matt- Thank you for your time, but as they say, no good deed goes unpunished. When Keith Wright was done with his doctor’s appointment he gave me a call to ask the following follow-ups questions. 1. With the understanding that the master plan will require that an 8” line be installed to complete the looping as part of the initiation of any portion of Phase II construction…. a. You had mentioned previously in the review comments that the connection point to the Hinesburg Road main needs to located south the of the in line meter(?) vault. Is this still the case? 2. Similar to the concept of a private 1.5” service line for the Phase I homes, can a 6” private line be used (with a hydrant) for phase I in lieu of the 8” minimum standard (or the 1.5” service option)? NO. The City Water Ordinance states: “All municipal water extensions, extended for the purpose of development shall be a minimum pipe size of eight-inch (8”) diameter unless waived by the superintendent, and shall be extended to the farthest boundary line of the development property within the city or water system right-of-way or an easement providing for future extension of the system.” The ability for the superintendent to waive the eight inch requirement does not allow them to contradict the requirements of the VT Water Supply Rule. VT WSR: Diameter The minimum size of water main for providing fire protection and serving fire hydrants shall be eight inch diameter. Larger size mains will be required if necessary to allow the withdrawal of the required fire flow while maintaining the minimum residual pressure specified in Appendix A Subpart 8.1.1. Furthermore, and the DWGPD has been very clear on this in past permits, hydrant leads (the 6” pipe) cannot be tapped for water services. In addition, Chapter 1 states “Water service lines shall not connect to hydrant leads.” a. If the answer were yes, would the connection point for the 6” line with the main on Hinesburg Road also have to be located south the meter(?) vault? Or could the wet tap occur closer to the proposed road intersection? b. And if the 1.5” option is pursued, can that connection point be located at the north roadway intersection with Hinesburg Road? I will get back to you for questions 1a and 2a, b. 2. We began the discussion of where the water main was required to be placed (in green space). Just confirming that it cannot be placed under the pavement surface. If there is any potential of this drive becoming a city street, then we do not want it under blacktop, and request it be in a greenspace. Lines under roads 5 are subject to frost conditions including freezing and heaving and are typically more expensive to repair than lines in green spaces. Thanks for your patience. I was not smart enough to ask these questions during our in- person meeting. Best Regards 6 David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 From: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:28 PM 7 To: dmarshall@cea-vt.com Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water No, but we could meet at 2:00 tomorrow. Matt Guerino will be taking my place when I retire at the end of the year. Please include him in all further email correspondence. Jay Nadeau Distribution Division Director Champlain Water District Direct: (802) 861-4817 Cell: (802) 497-7195 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:20 PM To: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water This email originated from outside of the District. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. So actually we were hoping 11:30? David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 From: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:12 PM To: dmarshall@cea-vt.com Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water We can meet at 10:30 Matt Guerino will be taking my place when I retire at the end of the year. Please include him in all further email correspondence. Jay Nadeau Distribution Division Director Champlain Water District Direct: (802) 861-4817 Cell: (802) 497-7195 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 3:10 PM To: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water This email originated from outside of the District. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. 8 Hi Jay- Keith Wright has a Doctor’s appointment that he can not miss. Do you have the flexibility o move back our meeting 30 minutes? Thanks for your thoughts! David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 From: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 2:48 PM To: dmarshall@cea-vt.com Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water Allocation Application See you then Matt Guerino will be taking my place when I retire at the end of the year. Please include him in all further email correspondence. Jay Nadeau Distribution Division Director Champlain Water District Direct: (802) 861-4817 Cell: (802) 497-7195 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 2:38 PM To: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water Allocation Application This email originated from outside of the District. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Jay- I can meet you and Matt at your 403 Queen City Park Road offices at 11 AM on the 25th. This is mostly to tie together all of the prior comments and provide a better understanding of the project as it is currently laid out. Thanks and Best Regards. David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 9 From: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 11:14 AM To: dmarshall@cea-vt.com Cc: Matt Guerino <matt.guerino@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water Allocation Application Sure. How about Wednesday 9/25 at 11:00AM? Where or how? Matt Guerino will be taking my place when I retire at the end of the year. Please include him in all further email correspondence. Jay Nadeau Distribution Division Director Champlain Water District Direct: (802) 861-4817 Cell: (802) 497-7195 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2024 7:35 AM To: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Cc: 'Marla Keene' <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>; 'Keith Wright' <Keith@kwrightinc.com> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water Allocation Application This email originated from outside of the District. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Jay- Will you have any time the week of the 23rd to be able to go over the comments and approaches for this project with me? I offer the following windows in time when I can come by your office. 9/23 M 7-11:30 AM; 3:15 – 5:30 PM 9/24 T 9:15 – 12:30 PM; 9/25 W 10:30 – 1:30 PM; 9/26 Th 1:00 – 530 PM Thank you and Best Regards David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 From: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 7:07 AM To: dmarshall@cea-vt.com Cc: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>; 'Keith Wright' <Keith@kwrightinc.com>; Betsy Brown <bbrown@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Tom Dipietro <tdipietro@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Julie Ringuette <julie.ringuette@champlainwater.org>; Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water Allocation Application 10 Good Morning Please find the Ability to Serve Letter and application for this project attached. The SBWD will provide comments as the project progresses through the city review process. Let me know if you have any questions. Jay Nadeau Distribution Division Director Champlain Water District Direct: (802) 861-4817 Cell: (802) 497-7195 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2024 10:26 AM To: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Cc: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>; 'Keith Wright' <Keith@kwrightinc.com> Subject: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington - Water Allocation Application This email originated from outside of the District. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Jay- Please find attached the water allocation request application for the WGM Associates subdivision located at 850. 900 and 950 Hinesburg Road. Under the existing conditions there are three residential homes on one lot. The proposed subdivision will place each of these homes on their own lot and proposes to create three additional residential lots on the north end of this 10.05 acre property, Lot 1D proposes also to have an accessory dwelling unit (soon to be shown on the plans). The Preliminary Plan application will be submitted as soon as we have our Section 1111 Permit from the State for the project which we plan on seeing in the next week or so. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best Regards David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 8:40 AM To: 'Jay Nadeau' <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington Hi Jay- 11 Thanks for knocking this out! I trust that the Flowed hydrant #1 reported static and lowed psi is missing a decimal place ͧͨͩͪ Best Regards David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 From: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 7:23 AM To: dmarshall@cea-vt.com Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington Flow report attached. let me know if you need anything else. Jay Nadeau Distribution Division Director Champlain Water District Direct: (802) 861-4817 Cell: (802) 497-7195 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 9:36 AM To: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington This email originated from outside of the District. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Jay- Thanks for getting back so quickly. It is still uncertain whether the Fire Department will require a new hydrant for the project. If so, a hydrant flow test will be a piece of the puzzle that will need to be filled in. So being conservative, if you are comfortable with a test on Friday, we will cover the cost and that will square away the technical issues on the existing conditions. Please let us know if you need any bodies from CEA to assist. Best Regards David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 12 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 From: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 7:54 AM To: dmarshall@cea-vt.com Subject: RE: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington Hi Dave Even with all the flow tests we’ve done in the City, we do not have any current data from anything in the immediate area around this property. If the weather holds, we might be able to slip one in tomorrow if you want us to. There is a hydrant flow test fees associated with it. If on the other hand all you needed was a static pressure, I could get you that today. Let me know. Jay Nadeau Distribution Division Director Champlain Water District Direct: (802) 861-4817 Cell: (802) 497-7195 From: David Marshall <dmarshall@cea-vt.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 4:09 PM To: Jay Nadeau <jay.nadeau@champlainwater.org> Subject: 850 Hinesburg Road, So. Burlington This email originated from outside of the District. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Jay- We are working on a subdivision for the Wright family that will create three (3) new housing units on the east side of the highway. This property is located about 0.2 miles south of the interstate. In support of sizing of the domestic service line diameter, we were hoping that you might have some hydrant flow data in the immediate area. There is a hydrant generally at the high point at this section of the highway just south of the 900 Hinesburg Road building. We searched but it looks like what we have for information dates back 15 years of so and this is down in the Meadowland Business Park. Many thanks for your thoughts on this one. Thank you and Best Regards! David S. Marshall, P.E. Civil Engineering Associates, Inc. 10 Mansfield View Lane South Burlington, VT 05403 P 802-864-2323 x310 F 864-2271 13 Notice – Under Vermont’s Public Records Act, all e-mail, e-mail attachments as well as paper copies of documents received or prepared for use in matters concerning District business, concerning a District official or staff, or containing information relating to District business are likely to be regarded as public records which may be inspected by any person upon request, unless otherwise made confidential by law. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by return email. 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