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DRAFT MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL
21 OCTOBER 2024
The South Burlington City Council held a regular meeting on Monday, 21 October
2024, at 6:30 p.m., in the Auditorium, 180 Market Street, and by Go to Meeting
remote participation.
MEMBERS PRESENT: T. Barritt, Chair; A. Chalnick, E. Fitzgerald, M. Scanlan, L.
Smith
ALSO PRESENT: J. Baker, City Manager; Chief S. Locke, Deputy City Manager; C.
McNeil, City Attorney; T. DiPietro, Public Works Director; I. Blanchard, Community
Development Director; K. Peterson, Senior City Planner; B. Sirvis, J. Olin, R. Doyle,
P. Leduc, R. Fischer, B. Britt, B. Heiser, M. Mittag, S. Dooley, A. Haughton, A. & J.
Hodgeson, A. Luzzatto, B. Burkhardt
1. Pledge of Allegiance:
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
2. Instructions on exiting building in case of emergency and review of
technology option:
Ms. Baker provided instructions on emergency exit from the building and
reviewed technology options.
3. Additions, deletions or changes in the order of Agenda items:
Item #13 was deleted. An executive session to evaluate a public employee – City
Councilors and the City Manager was added.
4. Comments and questions from the public not related to the agenda:
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All of the sidewalk is still not back in front of Kinney’s. It’s a high crash area with
a very problematic crossing. There is also no snow storage space.
5. Announcements, councilors reports from committee assignments and
City Manager’s Report:
Council members reported on meetings and events they had attended in recent
weeks.
Ms. Baker: The FY26 budget survey is open until Friday. There have been 127
responses to date.
The BTV Airport will hold a meeting on Wednesday, 6:30 p.m. at
Chamberlin School to review the new noise exposure maps.
Next agenda highlights include: a recommendation regarding Coffee
with a Councilor, the LDR amendments public hearing, updating Memorandum of
Understanding with the Library, the Public Art Committee work plan, a request
from the National Guard regarding contaminated water, an update from NEAT,
and the executive session removed from this meeting’s agenda.
6. Consent Agenda:
a. Approve and Sign Disbursements
b. Approve Minutes from 3 June and 10 June 2024
c. Approve Amendment #2 with Hoyle, Tanner & Associates for the
completion of the final engineering for the upgrade to the Bartlett
Bay Wastewater Treatment Facility
d. Authorize the City Manager to enter a contract with VHB to
complete the City Center Traffic Circulation Study
e. Approve and adopt Resolution #2024-23, approving and authorizing
the execution of all documents necessary to effectuate the
permanent conservation of approximately 105 acres of the Wheeler
Nature Park and pay to Vermont Land Trust the total sum of $41,200
from the City’s Open Space and Conservation Fund
f. Accept the warranty deed of easement from QHC Lot 3 LLC dated
October 2, 2024 and the deed of easement from the Burlington U
Mall Owner dated July 23, 2024, and authorize the City Manager to
execute the License and Agreement to indemnify the Hold Harmless
with the Champlain Water District for the purpose of completing the
Bike and Pedestrian Bridge over I-89.
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Mr. Scanlan asked to pull Item “e” from the Consent Agenda as he felt he should
recuse himself from that vote.
Mr. Chalnick then moved to approve items a, b, c, d, f of the Consent Agenda. Ms.
Fitzgerald seconded. Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Smith then moved to approve item “e” of the Consent Agenda. Mr. Chalnick
seconded.
Mr. Chalnick expressed concern with the “timber harvesting” portion of the
Conservation Easement. Mr. Barritt said there is a Forest Management Plan which
allows harvesting when it is needed. Mr. Smith said he had been in the wood
industry and said that there are times when it is appropriate to harvest. It is not
clear-cutting. He added that he trusted the integrity of the Land Trust and the
easement.
Mr. McNeil said he has worked with the Vermont Land Trust on this easement for
many years. In the document it says we cannot engage in the kind of activity Mr.
Chalnick is concerned with. There can be no cutting without Vermont Land Trust
approval.
Mr. Heiser of the Vermont Land Trust said the city has the right to manage the
forest according to the Forest Management Plan that the Vermont Land Trust
would have to approve. Other communities do this as well. He added that this is
their typical easement on publicly owned land, and it would be hard to modify.
Vermont Land Trust holds more than 2000 such easements. Mr. Heiser added that
there have been instances when tree cutting was refused and instances when it
has been approved.
Mr. Chalnick said given that information, he can vote to approve.
In the vote that followed, the motion passed 4-0 with Mr. Scanlan recusing himself
from the vote.
Mr. Mittag thanked Ms. Baker and her team for their support of this action.
7. Receive a Presentation from the Faith Influenced Leaders on Youth
Mental Health in South Burlington:
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Mr. LeDuc reviewed the nature of the Faith Influenced Leaders organization.
Among their activities was the creation of the South Burlington Food Shelf. They
then wanted to do something to help the city’s youth.
Youth mental health is a worldwide issue. To begin to address it locally, the
organization met with community leaders from the Police Department, Howard
Center, schools, Library, etc. They also reviewed the 2021 Youth Mental Health
Survey which revealed the following:
One-third of students said their mental health is not in a good place.
30% felt “sad” or “helpless.”
20% hurt themselves without wanting to die.
14% said they have a plan for suicide.
7% said they have attempted suicide.
Mr. LeDuc said these statistics show a real lack of preventive care. He stressed
that the organization is not comprised of mental health specialists. They just want
to help the city’s youth before they need help.
Some of the issues they have encountered include:
a. Lack of funding for helping organizations
b. Concern with student access to technology
c. Neglect/abuse at home
d. Food insecurity
e. 20% have had an emergency room visit
f. Younger children being affected
g. Talking about mental health is taboo for young people
h. Lack of places to go
i. The closing of the South Burlington mentoring program
Some of the goals the organization has viewed as critical include:
a. Increased funding
b. Advocacy for increased funding
c. Preventive programs to support youth (e.g., drop-in centers)
d. Financial support for mentoring
e. Transportation to get youth to existing programs
f. Focus on preventive programs at all hours of the day
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Mr. LeDuc said their aim is to create a public/private partnership to achieve their
goals.
They have groups ready to help but are in need of resources to create a facility.
Mr. Barritt asked if phones are seen as a “cause” or a “symptom” of the problem.
Mr. LeDuc said there is a lot of negative energy out there. He also cited the
disastrous effect of the pandemic.
Mr. Smith asked if there is any research on what is causing the anxiety and stress.
Mr. LeDuc said all kinds of things drive youth and adults into crisis. He said their
hope is to create environments where all of this isn’t in people’s faces. If youth
had a space with caring adults, where they could help each other and have adults
support them.
Ms. Fitzgerald asked if they have involved the School District. Mr. LeDuc said they
are meeting with them next week. Ms. Fitzgerald noted that the State shifted the
responsibility for services without providing the funding to go with the
responsibility. Schools are also being asked to refer students to services. Ms.
Fitzgerald also expressed concern with the loss of the mentoring program.
Mr. Scanlan said if you don’t have someone to help you, the fall from grace can
be irreversible. He also noted the stigma of “not being OK.”
Mr. Barritt suggested getting students together in a ‘round table’ discussion. Mr.
LeDuc said they are working to do that. The challenge will be to ensure that their
voices are acted upon. Mr. Barritt noted that in the past 15 years, there has been a
“caring fall-off.” Something is missing. Mr. LeDuc said it is easy to lose track of
“community caring.” He saw this with the Food Shelf until their organization
found a place for it to happen.
Ms. Baker said this is why she works in local government. She noted that there
are some programs at the schools and Library, in the parks, etc., but they are still
missing some of those young people. She cited the need to have a recreation
center in South Burlington to give young people certainty of where to go for
support, programs, and connection.
Mr. LeDuc said their next steps will be to meet with the schools and with SBBA in
the hope of bringing groups together to get something going.
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8. Receive a Presentation from Wagner Hodgeson on the City Green
concepts as defined by the community and consultants. Discuss next
steps:
Ms. Blanchard reviewed the history of the City Green project and then introduced
the consultants, Amy and Jeff Hodgeson.
Ms. Hodgeson said this presentation is the culmination of a feasibility study to
identify preferred locations for a City Green and to develop park concepts and
designs. They began by researching city greens (she showed photos of some
downtown parks). These spaces have become the heart of cities and towns.
Because real estate is so expensive, they are becoming highly programmed
spaces and are getting smaller.
Ms. Hodgeson then showed a map of the 6 potential spaces they reviewed. She
noted that what makes a great space is accessibility, safety, comfort, and
uses/activities. A lot of the parks they reviewed had flexible spaces with varied
types of seating to accommodate people of all abilities. They included shared use
paths, social gathering spaces, shade, lighting, arts & culture, fountains,
stormwater treatment, and space for a tent/kiosk to house events. They were
usually the result of a public/private partnership.
At 2 public meetings, attendees were asked what they wanted in a City Green.
Ideas from the public included: flexible green space, social gathering, variety of
seating, walkways, fountains and play areas, rain gardens, retail integration, site
structures, food kiosk, shade trees, and space for children and teen.
The locations that were reviewed as potential sites were: UMall, Blue Mall, 2 sites
near City Hall, next to the DMV, and north of Barnes & Noble. Criteria considered
included access, comfort, uses and activities, and affordability. Three of the sites
were considered too noisy and/or too narrow. The UMall site and one of the City
Hall sites were considered the best options and were rated as follows:
UMall Site:
a. Would mix retail with the park
b. 2 potential new buildings
c. Space for a coffee kiosk and fountain
d. A picnic grove area
e. Flexible lawn (which could serve as an ice skating venue in winter)
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f. Potential performance space
City Hall Site:
a. Space for a kiosk with adjacent fountain
b. Pathways back to City Hall
c. Space for an identified future street
d. Advantage of Market Street for events (which happens now)
e. Flexible lawn/ice skating space
f. Stage space
g. Space to tie down tent(s)
When the location alternatives were presented at a second public meeting, a
majority of attendees preferred the City Hall site. People also cited the need for a
children’s space, public rest rooms, and accessibility. They also noted potential
traffic congestion on Market St. Parking was a major concern as were safety and
maintenance.
Ms. Hodgeson said that if the UMall site is chosen, it should be developed in
conjunction with a mixed use development. The exact location could vary. If the
City Hall site is chosen, the planned road should also be considered. All designs
should include lighting and signage and space to accommodate pets.
The estimated cost for development of the park ranges between $1,600,000.00 and
$3,700,000.00. These figures do not include the cost of the land.
Mr. Barritt thought the 2 preferred locations were logical. Mr. Chalnick expressed
concern with the UMall site being across 4 lanes of traffic. Ms. Hodgeson said
that with the correct partnership, it could be great. Mr. Scanlan said that the
UMall site could be creating a second City Center. The City Hall site seemed to be
more of a meeting place. Mr. Smith said he was leaning more toward the City Hall
site. Mr. Hodgeson said the City Hall site has good circulation around it and is
safe and very welcoming.
Mr. Scanlan asked how people would be brought into the area. Mr. Hodgeson
said this would rely on the programs and things for people to attend. He thought
either location could accomplish that and could be successful. Mr. Smith said he
would like to see a a concept for a combination of both City Hall sites.
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Members agreed to continue the discussion, specific to real estate purchase, in
executive session.
9. Receive a presentation on the Equity in Planning efforts and discuss
next steps:
Ms. Peterson said this project was funded through a Municipal Planning Grant
from the State. Its focus was the creation of an “equity in planning tool kit: to
address missing communities that have not been able to participate in local
government.
The goals of the project included:
a. To advance equity in City government
b. To reframe the City’s approach to outreach by giving all people
equivalent value
c. To build a predictable, transparent system
d. To reach people that traditional outreach often fails to reach
e. To incorporate a feedback loop into outreach
The project “lives” in the Planning Commission now, but it will later be taken to
other groups and up to the City Council.
Ms. Peterson then outlined the steps being taken to build the tool kit:
a. A community advisory group comprised of 8 people from different
facets of the community (e.g., religious, underhoused, non-profits,
community “movers and shakers”)
b. Public survey
c. Focus groups
d. Interviews
e. Pop-up events
f. Staff input
The tool kit framework will include:
a. Principles, guidelines & best practices, including what others have been
developing
b. Community partners (to reach groups such as religious, Howard Center)
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c. Checklists, templates and other resources to determine whether we are
succeeding
Using the tool kit will involve meeting people where they are, overcoming
barriers, and motivating people to engage.
There will be 4 stages to any project:
1. Identify who is impacted by the project
2. Begin engagement process
3. Answer specific questions/solve specific problems
4. Close the “loop”
Ms. Peterson noted the City is now doing a less than good job on Stage 1.
The engagement spectrum will consist of 5 stages on a sliding scale, depending
on the nature of the project:
1. Inform
2. Consult
3. Involve
4. Collaborate
5. Share in decision making
Best practices will involve clearly defining the purpose, goals and objectives of the
project, engaging those most impacted, making engagement accessible via
multiple engagement channels (newspaper, social media, etc.), using culturally
relevant accessible communication, hosting engagement opportunities in
accessible locations, offering flexible participation options, and ensuring a safe
environment.
Closing the “loop” will involve providing verification/validation and specific
feedback by maintaining a constant presence and ongoing open dialogue,
building trust and long-term relationships, and leveraging existing community
resources.
Mr. Barritt asked if there is technology that the City doesn’t have that would help
with this. Ms. Peterson said the consultant is still working on details such as that.
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Ms. Baker described the project as “intentional planning efforts for major
projects/decisions.”
Ms. Peterson said if this is done well in the planning process, it will be one of the
things the Council can use to make its decisions, and it will make them more
secure knowing this process has taken place.
10. Convene as Liquor Control Commission to consider the following
applications for approval:
a. Rotisserie, Outside Consumption Permit
b. Stewart’s Shop Corp., 2nd Class Licenses, Tobacco Licenses, Tobacco
Substitute Endorsements
c. Gonzo’s Indoor Golf & Academy, LLC, 1st & 3rd Class Restaurant/Bar
License
Mr. Chalnick moved that the Council convene as Liquor Control Commission. Mr.
Smith seconded. Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Chalnick moved to approve the applications for approval as presented. Mr.
Smith seconded. Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Chalnick moved to reconvene as City Council. Mr. Smith seconded. Motion
passed unanimously.
11. Other Business:
Mr. Scanlan said he has spoken with staff regarding putting the F-35 question on
the March ballot as Winooski and the City of Burlington did. Mr. Smith said he
would support that when he sees the language.
Mr. Chalnick said he would like to see options for the Central School intersection.
Ms. Baker noted the Council has approved an engineering study to redo that
intersection. She stressed that the City will train anyone the School District hires.
She also noted that the intersection is policed, when officers are available (the city
is currently down 10 officers). She said that the City is will and will be a more
effective partner to training people the School District hires.
Mr. Chalnick noted that VGS is excited to help with weatherization and would like
some support. He would like to provide that to show the City’s appreciation. Ms.
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Baker said there is an obligation to the community to bring on the professionals to
build those partnership agreements. She said the City is in the hiring process for
this position and hopes to wrap it up quickly. Mr. Chalnick said 6 weeks is OK.
Mr. Barrit said he was contacted by a woman regarding having a cannabis facility
in the community. It would take a public vote to OK it. Ms. Baker said it would
have to be regulated locally.
12. Consider entering executive session for the purpose of discussing the
negotiation or securing of real estate purchase or lease options, and
specifically a future City Green (1 V.S.A. Section 313(1)(E)and (F):
Mr. Chalnick moved that the Council enter into executive session for the purpose
of discussing the negotiation or securing of real estate purchase or lease options
relating to a future City Green, inviting into the session Ms. Baker, Chief Locke,
and Ms. Blanchard. Mr. Smith seconded. The motion passed unanimously.
13. (new) Consider entering executive session for the purpose of discussing
the evaluation of a public officer or employee, specifically the City
Manager and City Councilors:
Mr. Chalnick then moved that the Council enter into executive session for the
purpose of discussing the evaluation of a public officer or employee, specifically
the City Manager and City Councilors including their respective roles,
responsibilities and appropriate delineations, inviting into the session Ms. Baker
and Chief Locke. Mr. Smith seconded. Motion passed unanimously.
Following the executive sessions, as there was no further business to come
before the Council Mr. Smith moved to adjourn. Ms. Fitzgerald seconded.
Motion passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 11:15 p.m.
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Clerk