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DRAFT Minutes
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD
5 DECEMBER 2023
The South Burlington Development Review Board held a regular meeting on
Tuesday, 5 December 2023, at 7:00 p.m. in the Auditorium, City Hall, 180 Market
Street, and via Go to Meeting interactive technology.
MEMBERS PRESENT: D. Philibert, Chair; F. Kochman, Q. Mann, S. Wyman, J.
Moscatelli, C. Johnston
ALSO PRESENT: M. Keene, Development Review Planner; M. Gillies, Planner; K.
& N. Wright, N. McGovern, K. McGovern, G. Rabideau, G. Bourne, J. Desautels, G.
Winslett, T. Easton, K. Easton, L. Kupferman, D. Walrath, Shane, M. Turner, S.
Dooley, N. Gingrow, R. Bourne, J. Bellavance
1. Instructions on exiting the building in case of an emergency:
Ms. Philibert provided instructions on emergency exit from the building.
2. Additions, deletions, or changes in order of agenda items:
No changes were made to the agenda.
3. Comments and questions from the public not related to the Agenda:
No issues were raised.
4. Announcements:
There were no announcements.
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5. Continued Master Plan Sketch Plan Application #SD-23-12 of Eric Farrell
for an existing approximately 105-acre lot developed with 2 single-
family homes and 6 unoccupied or accessory structures. The Master
Plan consists of placing approximately 74 acres into permanent
conservation, conveying approximately 1 acre to abutters, and
constructing 124 additional homes in buildings ranging from single-
family to 12 units on 28.25 acres, 1195 Shelburne Road:
Ms. Keene advised that the applicant had asked for a continuance to 3 January
2024.
Ms. Mann moved to continue SD-23-12 to 3 January 2024. Mr. Moscatelli
seconded. Motion passed 5-0 with Ms. Wyman abstaining due to a potential
conflict of interest.
6. Sketch Plan Application #SD-23-15 of WGM Associates to subdivide an
existing approximately 10.0-acre lot developed with 3 homes into a
general PUD consisting of 11 single-family home lots ranging from 0.38
acres to 1.14 acres and one 1.0 acre open space lot, 850 Hinesburg Road:
Ms. Philibert explained the nature of a sketch plan and the process.
Mr. Wright explained that this 10 acres is what is left of a family farm. One house
was left to each of his grandfather’s children. He said he would now like to add
houses so that his children can come back and raise the fifth generation of
Wrights on the property and allow his sisters to have lots as well. He said he does
not want to sell any of the lots. His sisters do not want to build at this time, but
his children are “ready to go.”
The applicant explained that the property is in the I-O District. Prior to Act 47, they
were looking at a 3-lot subdivision with one acre civic space. With Act 47, they
went back because they can now create lots for their children because the Act
allows development at 5 units per acre with municipal water and sewer. He
showed the original plan and a new alternative layout. There are 11 lots
proposed. All can be served by municipal water and sewer. There is stormwater
mitigation on site. They are considering a narrow private road.
Staff comments were then addressed as follows:
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#1. Staff asked whether the Board agrees this project meets the
requirement for municipal water and sewer. Mr. Kochman questioned whether
staff is being consistent regarding water/sewer on this property and not on a
subsequent issue regarding conserved property. Ms. Keene said the Board
should make decisions on a case-by-case basis until the Planning Commission
changes the LDRs. Mr. Kochman said Act 47 in directed on these large lot
residences to allow for more density. He added that he had no problem allowing
this, but he cautioned that staff won’t have the ability to have “Mr. Tophats” come
in and keep their large lots. Mr. Moscatelli noted that Act 47 would like 57 units
on this property. In this case, he said, it makes sense to say the parcel is served
by municipal water/sewer. Ms. Mann agreed as did other members.
#2. It was noted that Act 47 supersedes the LDRs regarding setbacks. The
applicant noted that they were trying to bridge the current regulations and Act 47.
A PUD requires setbacks they cannot meet. Ms. Keene said she didn’t know why
they were proposing a PUD when it is not required and not needed and is more
complicated to do. Mr. Kochman asked if the setbacks are waivable. Ms. Keene
said they are. Mr. Kochman asked whether everything on Hinesburg Road is
existing and remaining. The applicant said it is.
#3. Regarding delineating the wetland, the applicant said if they can get
onto the neighbor’s property, they will do that. There are no wetlands on this
property, but the setback from the wetland does fall on this property.
#4. Regarding phasing and timing they applicant said they are
contemplating a one to two year buildout for the first houses. With regard to the
road buildout, they are suggesting a possible “loop road” to start with. Ms.
Keene asked if they would be building the northern lots first. Mr. Wright said they
would. The others are not ready to construct. If they never got built, that’s OK.
Ms. Keene said given that those lots may not be built now, she asked if the Board
wanted to see phasing for the loop. Members said they did.
#5. Staff recommended discussion on how the applicant proposes to meet
the requirement for contiguous open space with several lots. The applicant said
they feel the open space desire relates to the property on both sides, which are
large commercial lots. They feel they meet the 10% open space requirement on
this lot with their planned open space. Mr. Kochman agreed and said this is
consistent with Act 47. He felt the 11 houses creates a lot of nice open space with
a nice area in the middle.
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#6. Without a dedication of a future right-of-way to the adjacent property,
the proposed development wouldn’t meet the requirements. Private roads are
limited to 200 feet in length, and this restriction does not include a provision for
looped dead end streets. Mr. Kochman asked what the adjacent properties
consist of. Ms. Keene said Dynapower is to the north and east, Lane Press is to
the rear. She indicated the property to the south which could be proposed for 30
units. She noted the right-of-way would extend into an existing driveway. The
applicant said they are willing to include a future right-of-way to the property to
the south. Mr. Wright asked if it would be better as a “U” turn instead of a dead-
end street. It will be a private road, and the driveway actually will access a couple
of houses. Ms. Keene said what the applicant proposes is “interesting.” Mr.
Kochman asked if it satisfies the requirement. Ms. Keene said “with a little
twisting.” Mr. Kochman said he is sold and that the requirement is awkward at
best. Ms. Keene said if the Board can live with that road not being built, if the
next property develops, they could have to connect. Mr. Johnston said that would
make it the burden of the person on the next property. Ms. Keene said the city
would accept the private road at this time. They have done something similar in
the past, even though precedent is not binding. Mr. Kochman said it should be.
Mr. Johnson was concerned with having the next property’s developer build the
road. Mr. Kochman said if that developer feels he was mistreated, he can appeal.
There is no purpose to building the road in this case; there would be for the next
property developer. There was also a public benefit in the other case the Board
heard; in this case there is not.
#7. This has been addressed.
#8. Already resolved.
#9. Addressed by the layout change.
#10. Staff asked what street types are anticipated. The applicant said a
“narrow neighborhood street.” Ms. Keene noted this is a 2-lane road with no
parking on either side and a sidewalk on one side of the road.
#11. Staff asked if the applicant intends a rec path or setting aside space for
one. The applicant said they have no problem with an easement on Hinesburg
Road where there is 15 feet between the house and the road. Ms. Keene
questioned whether that is enough room. She will talk with Public Works about
that.
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Public comment was then solicited.
Mr. Winslet asked if he could not buy a house there in the future. Mr. Kochman
said it is a potentially vulnerable restriction and is challengeable. Mr. Wright said
his play is for his family, but he didn’t know what his kids would want to do in the
future.
7. Sketch Plan Application #SD-23-16 of Gary Bourne to create a General
Planned Unit Development by re-subdividing 3 existing lots into 3 new
lots of 0.18 acres (Lot 1), 0.14 acres (Lot 2) and 1.06 acres (Lot 3), and
constructing a 3,350 sf financial institution on Lot 1, a 6,480 sf 2-story
mixed commercial and residential building on Lot 2 containing 2 market
rate and one inclusionary rate units, and a 3-story, 27-unit multi-family
building on Lot 3, of which 9 units are proposed to be inclusionary, 760
Shelburne Road:
Ms. Philibert asked whether this is a totally different plan from the one that was
denied. Ms. Desautels said it is the same corner (Shelburne Rd. and Swift Street)
redevelopment. The lot previously had a gas station, auto repair, and Pizza Hut
development. The proposed project is similar to the one the Board previously
saw (she showed the plan) with the major difference being the elimination of the
ATM. She indicated the reconfiguration of that area. Ms. Philibert asked why the
current “eyesore” hasn’t been demolished. Mr. Bourne said at one time they
were prohibited from demolishing it by Act 250. They do have a city demolition
permit; if they get an approved plan, they will demolish.
Staff comments were then addressed as follows:
#1. Staff was asked to consider whether the elevations give the appearance
of 2 stories, which is a requirement. Mr. Kochman noted one “solid wall” in back.
Mr. Rabideau said not all bank spaces get windows; that wall may have
bathrooms. He added that the bank has its own architect, and they have to go
back to Chase with every proposed change. He felt what is proposed makes a
strong gesture toward a second floor. Mr. Kochman said he likes the Palace 9
project, and hesitant when he discusses architecture. But he does not like the
blank wall and thinks it is very unattractive for Shelburne Road. Ms. Philibert said
there is no connection between the wall and the rest of the development. Mr.
Rabideau said he would take that to Chase. Mr. Rabideau noted the rest of the
bank has a lot of windows. He also noted that this is a look that is a trend. Mr.
Moscatelli agreed. He said if the wall wasn’t going to be seen, he would be OK
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with it, but it is right on Shelburne Road. He agreed the rest of the building does
give a second floor appearance. Ms. Keene said it should have windows or in
some way better complement the rest of the buildings.
#2. Staff noted the front setback coverage is limited to 30%. The driveway
width is too wide to meet that requirement and suggested reducing it to 20% and
then determining whether the coverage meets the standard. Ms. Desautels said
this is the result of a conversation with the Fire Chief to accommodate the fire
truck. We were asked to widen the driveway to that width. It has to do with the
“swing” of the truck. Ms. Keene said she would talk with the Chief.
#3. The applicant was asked to address the overage on coverage. Ms.
Desautels said the coverage on Shelburne Rd. is 36.1%, slightly over what is
allowed. The justification is that this layout provide visual interest.
#4. The applicant was asked to widen the walkway to the 8-foot standard.
Ms. Desautels said this was discussed before. They hoped they could keep the
width because of the stormwater feature there. It doubles as a nice landscaped
area. There are also some eagle sculptures. Mr. Kochman said he is with the
applicant on this. The sidewalk goes to Swift Street, which is a low use area. Ms.
Keene said there is a rec path on Swift Street, and there will be 27 homes
connecting to Farrell Park. Mr. Kochman said he walks there frequently and is
usually the only one there. He felt 4 feet was more aesthetically pleasing. Ms.
Keene noted the Board has limited authority to modify the standard (15CO7A).
Mr. Johnston noted there are 2 walks that go to Swift Street. One is 5 feet wide.
Ms. Keene said only the one going to the building entrances needs to be 8 feet.
#5. The applicant was asked to describe the glazing transparency; it appears
some glazing is not proposed to be transparent. Ms. Keene indicated the area in
question. Mr. Rabideau said there will be a chart to explain the percentages.
They will meet the requirement.
#6. Staff asked how the inclusionary units will meet the standard. Mr.
Rabideau said market units will have 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms; inclusionary
units will have 2 bedrooms and 1 bathroom which will make them 100 sf smaller.
They will be above the minimum required size. Ms. Keene said it is fine.
#7. The applicant was asked if they intend to waive master plan review.
Ms. Desautels said they are not. It will be a future application. Mr. Rabideau said
there will be 2 phases of development. All paving and driveways will be done in
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the first phase. Ms. Keene cited the difference between a construction phase and
an approval phase. If everything is approved, there may be no need for a master
plan. The Board was OK with no master plan.
#8. Regarding the mix of bedrooms, staff said the proposed mix is not
acceptable. Mr. Rabideau said that is confusing as to how it applies to a single
building. They could take two 2-bedroom units and turn them into a one and a
three-bedroom unit. Ms. Keene said there is a question as to how much
differentiation is required. Ms. Quinn said 2-bedrooms seems to be the market
preference. She was OK with a majority of those. Mr. Kochman was OK with a
one and a three bedroom. Mr. Rabideau said 3-bedroom units raise the issue of
“unrelated adults” getting into a building. Ms. Philibert noted that Habitat for
Humanity is getting a lot of requests for one-bedroom homes.
Public comment was then solicited:
Mr. Winslet stressed the seriousness of the housing shortage. He said he and his
wife would like to live in South Burlington but can’t afford anything to buy. He
teaches in Middlebury, and his wife is in orthopedics at the Medical Center which
is already short-staffed. If they have to leave the area, it will get worse. He cited
South Burlington as the commercial epicenter of Chittenden County and
suggested there may be too much emphasis on open space and aesthetics. He
said what is there now is a blighted Pizza Hut. This project would create a lot of
places for people to live, and he felt Mr. Bourne should get a “thank you” and “a
medal.”
Ms. Philibert said Mr. Winslet is not the first person they have heard this from.
But some people want more open space. She explained the DRB’s job is quasi-
judicial, and they have to adjudicate an application as to whether it meets the
existing regulations.
8. Other Business:
Ms. Keene said she will let members know if there is to be a second December
meeting.
As there was no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was
adjourned by common consent at 9:02 p.m.
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These minutes were approved by the Board on __________________________.
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD
17 JANUARY 2024
The South Burlington Development Review Board held a regular meeting on
Tuesday,17 January 2024, at 7:00 p.m. in the Auditorium, City Hall, 180 Market
Street, and via Go to Meeting interactive technology.
MEMBERS PRESENT: D. Philibert, Chair; M. Behr, F. Kochman, Q. Mann, S.
Wyman, J. Moscatelli, C. Johnston
ALSO PRESENT: M. Keene, Development Review Planner; M. Gillies, Planner; E.
Braco, G. Dixson, R. & O. Birgisson, K. & N. Wright, K. & T. Bailey, David, J.
Draper, B. Truchon, Skip’s iPad, Keith, Shane, A. & Z. Smith, D. Sherman, T. Reilly,
J. Dubuque, N. Ely, K. Rozendaal, R. Pierce, A. Truchon, J. Larkin
1. Instructions on exiting the building in case of an emergency:
Ms. Philibert provided instructions on emergency exit from the building.
2. Additions, deletions, or changes in order of agenda items:
No changes were made to the agenda.
3. Comments and questions from the public not related to the Agenda:
No issues were raised.
4. Announcements:
There were no announcements.
5. Continued master plan application #MP-23-01 of John Larkin, Inc., to
establish a master plan for an approximately 40 acre existing PUD
consisting of 270 residential units in 8 multi-family buildings, a 20,000 sf
movie theater, a 22,500 sf restaurant/medical office building, and a
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3,500 sf restaurant with drive through. The master plan includes 4
phases and consists of adding approximately 92,105 sf of commercial
space including a 110-room hotel, approximately 281 homes in multi-
family and mixed use buildings, 6 homes I 2-family buildings,
approximately 5 acres of programmed and passive open spaces, and
extending a city street, 1185 Shelburne Road:
Ms. Wyman was recused from this hearing due to a potential conflict of interest.
Staff comments were addressed as follows:
#1. No comments were made.
#2. Staff recommends the Board confirm whether any projects impact
natural resources. The applicant said they do not impact natural resources with
any part of their project. The stormwater people don’t have a design yet, and
there will be continued collaboration with them.
#3. A subdivision plan will be needed prior to closing of the hearing. The
applicant indicated they have no proposed subdivisions. Staff noted that under
current LDRs, each principle structure must be on its own lot. Most of the
proposed lots are, except for the duplexes. The applicant indicated they will take
care of that.
#4. Staff recommends the Board discuss whether to waive Preliminary Plat
Review for one or all phases of the proposed development. Board members were
inclined not to waive Preliminary Plat. The applicant was OK with this.
#5. Staff recommends the Board waive preliminary and final plat for
projects not involving subdivision of land, and instead allow site plan review. The
applicant was OK with not waiving the preliminary and final plats. Mr. Kochman
said there usually is not enough detail in the Master Plan to go to Site Plan. Mr.
Behr felt there typically is a lot of detail in the Master Plan. He noted it’s the
applicant’s risk to go to Site Plan, and the Board isn’t removing any details they
have control over. Ms. Keene said that going right to Site Plan is the “carrot” for
doing a Master Plan. Ms. Mann said the applicant could still come in with a sketch
plan or preliminary plat if they had questions about something.
#6 The applicant indicated they are not requesting a “process waiver” to
skip the zoning permit stage.
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#7. The applicant was asked to identify any further aspects of the Master
Plan that should be vested (a list of what is currently vested was shown). Mr.
Kochman said that according to his understanding, everything is vested. Mr.
Gillies said there is latitude to waive/amend certain regulations in a PUD. Mr.
Behr said this allows the developer the assurance that what is approved is what
they can build. Mr. Kochman said that the LDRs that were in effect on 5/15/23 are
what they can build to.
#8. and #9. Staff advised that reduced front and side yard setbacks are
appropriate in this case and recommended the Board and applicant identify a
distance to which each of those minimum setbacks should be reduced. Ms. Braco
said they are asking to waive the internal side setbacks, also a 10-foot minimum
setback from Shelburne Road and Fayette Road in order to align with existing
buildings. They can abide by external setbacks. Members were OK with that. Ms.
Keene said staff considers the increased front setback coverage is likely in this
case and recommends the Board and applicant identify an amount to which this
maximum coverage should be increased. Mr. Behr said he can see why they are
asking for 90%. Mr. Gillies added this is something like a City Center type “vibe.”
#10. Staff considers the increased overall building overall building coverage
is likely appropriate in this case and recommends the Board and applicant identify
an amount to which this maximum coverage should be increased for individual
lots within the PUD. Mr. Behr said he was fine with what he is seeing. The
applicant said they can still provide a calculation. Members agreed to approve
what they were seeing.
#11. Sheet C-3 should be updated to include planned and existing transit
routes. The applicant will do this.
#12. Staff feels the vehicle drop-off area is not in keeping with the LDRs.
Mr. Hodgson said they understand the concern. Mr. Behr said he would like some
of the details hashed out so the Board doesn’t see something very different at site
plan. Mr. Hodgson note they do not yet have an architect chosen.
#13. The applicant was asked to identify protection for steep slopes. The
applicant said the biggest protection is avoidance. This can be addressed at Site
Plan. The analysis has been done, and most steep slopes are in the river corridor
area. Mr. Gillies suggested a separate sheet indicating that.
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#14. The applicant agreed to get street name approval prior to Site Plan.
#15. The applicant was asked to discuss the viability of an informal east-
west bike and pedestrian connection between the subject PUD and the proposed
development to the west. Mr. Hodgson said they are OK with the bike path
connection. Mr. Gillies noted that Public Works does not want another railroad
crossing.
#16. Staff questioned whether above-ground infrastructure will be needed
for utilities. The applicant did not anticipate this.
#17. Staff questioned whether blocks are proposed. Mr. Hodgson said there
is an existing block, and they do not propose any others. Mr. Gillies showed what
could be considered new blocks and said it looks like they are fine.
#18. The applicant agreed to change a designation.
#19. Staff noted the need for trip generation data. The applicant said the
existing data has been submitted, and they can do that again.
#20. The applicant was asked to clarify wastewater amounts. They
indicated that the amounts will be identical.
#21. Staff noted that stormwater will be reviewed on a case by case basis.
The applicant was OK with this.
#22. The applicant was asked to discuss whether the level of analysis to
determine the area reserved for stormwater treatment is sufficient. The applicant
said they meet the State standards.
#23. Staff questioned whether parking is adequate. The applicant asked to
discuss this at site plan review.
#24. The applicant was asked to address the dimensions of blocks. They
indicated they meet the required dimensions.
#25. Regarding the minimum lot size waiver request, the applicant was
asked to what size the lots should be reduced. Mr. Gillies suggested getting back
to this
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#26. The applicant was asked to discuss reasonable limitations to building
heights. The applicant provided information that town houses will be 22’ to 44’ in
height and all other buildings will range from 44’ to 76’. Mr. Kochman asked if
more of a setback should be required for a building of 76’ in height. The applicant
asked to come back to that at the next hearing. Mr. Kochman said he would also
like the height limited to 76’. Mr. Behr asked how 76’ would fit and where it is
proposed. He didn’t want it to change the feel of the development. The applicant
said they don’t have an architect yet and will bring in the heights of existing
buildings at the next hearing. Mr. Larkin said they don’t intend to build three 76’
buildings.
#27. The applicant was asked to address parking spaces and the lack of a
turnaround. The applicant said they marked off a turnaround, but there is not
enough room for a truck or fire engine. If someone drives there by mistake, they
can turn around.
Public comment was then solicited. There was no public comment.
Mr. Behr moved to continue MP-23-01 until 6 February 2024. Ms. Philibert
seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
Ms. Wyman rejoined the Board.
6. Variance application #VR-24-01 of Green Mountain Habitat for Humanity
for approval to modify the dimensional standards applicable to an
existing residential building lot. The modification consists of the
minimum that will afford relief from the unique conditions that
preclude4 development in strict conformity with the Land Development
Regulations, 58 Wright Court:
Ms. Philibert was recused due to a potential conflict of interest. Ms. Mann chaired
this portion of the meeting.
Mr. Pierce indicated that Green Mountain Habitat for Humanity provides
affordable housing by selling homes at their costs. They want to bring good
people into the community. With Act 47, they can now have a duplex on this lot.
The scale of the building will be the same as most other properties in the
neighborhood.
Staff comments were then addressed as follows:
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#1. Staff asked the Board to determine that there is a unique physical
circumstance to this property that creates an unnecessary hardship. After viewing
pictures of the property, the Board agreed that there is such a circumstance.
#2. The Board was asked to determine whether the property could be
developed in strict conformance with the LDRs. Ms. Mann noted that the building
envelope would have to be 5’x770’ to be in strict compliance. Staff also believes
the property cannot be developed in strict conformity with the Regulations. Mr.
Kochman asked whether the lot size meets the city’s minimum. Mr. Gillies said
the city’s minimum lot size is not compliant with Act 47. This is also an existing
lot, so it is developable. Members agreed that the property cannot be developed
in strict compliance with the LDRs.
#3. Staff asked the Board to determine whether the hardship was created by
the applicant. Members agreed that the hardship was not created by the
applicant.
#4. The Board was asked to discuss whether the variance will alter the
character of the neighborhood, be detrimental to public welfare, impair
development of adjacent property or reduce access to renewable energy source.
Mr. Gillies noted that the variance has to be the minimum needed to address the
hardship. He showed the concept of what the variance would look like. Members
were OK with what is proposed. Mr. Pierce said they will place the house in the
best position they can. In reviewing the criteria for a variance, members felt that
those criteria were being met.
#5. The Board was asked to confirm that the variance request is the least
that can afford relief. The Board agreed that what is being requested is the least
needed to afford relief.
Public comment was then solicited and received as follows:
Mr. Smith: While he supports Habitat, he did not feel the lot was large enough to
support a duplex. He noted that when the lot was sold in 1956, it was not sold as
a building lot. He also felt the proposed house is not in keeping with the character
of the neighborhood because others have 15’ and 17’ side setbacks, and this
house will have 5’. He also noted that his home is 50 feet from Wright Court
Extensions. His neighbor is 40’. With the proposed 30’ setback, this house would
be 40’ in front of existing houses. He also felt the project was detrimental to
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public welfare as the “pass-through” has been used for emergency vehicles, UPS,
etc. It appears there is a right-of-way that was in the deed to the Dumont
Brothers. If that is true, the setback would have to be 30’ back from that, which
would reduce the lot size.
Mr. Gillies noted there is a difference between a “right-of-way” and an
“easement.” Mr. Kochman noted that neither one of those reduces a lot size.
Ms. Truchon: She echoed Mr. Smith’s comments. She said the deed shows
that lot is not a strict rectangle. She was also concerned with the impact to the
right-of-way and the alteration of the character of the neighborhood. She said if
the road is interrupted or discontinued, emergency vehicles could not have
access. She added that Wright Court does not have a sidewalk or access to rec
paths. Residents use Wright Court Extension because it is safer. It is not a
“pedestrian neighborhood.” Ms. Truchon also noted that the land closest to that
lot has recently been cleared.
Mr. Kochman asked if the variance were conditioned to eliminate the impact to
the right-of-way, would that eliminate the neighbors’ concerns.
Mr. Behr asked the applicant the envisioned depth of the house. Mr. Pierce said
35 feet. Mr. Behr asked whether the house can be positioned so it is not pushing
up against the pass-through. Mr. Pierce had no problem with that. Mr. Behr felt
that would minimize the concern. Mr. Kochman said the pass-through would
have to be maintained. Mr. Behr agreed. Mr. Pierce said it is not their intent to
stop people from using the pass-through.
Mr. Moscatelli asked who maintains Wright Court Extension. Ms. Truchon said
the city plows to a certain spot, then the resident of 300 Hinesburg Rd. plows from
there.
Mr. Ely was concerned that whoever buys the property could impede the right-of-
way. Mr. Behr said that would be a condition of an approval. Mr. Ely said he
agreed with moving the house back to be in line with other houses.
Ms. Dubuque: Noted that it is hard for large trucks to turn around on Wright
Court, and they have to use the extension. She said it would look odd if the house
sat 40’ in front of Mr. Smith’s house. She added a concern with traffic and
parking.
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Following public testimony, Mr. Behr moved to close VR-24-01. Mr. Moscatelli
seconded. Motion passed 6-0.
Ms. Philibert rejoined the Board and assumed the role of Chair.
7. Master Plan Sketch Plan Application #SD-24-02 of WGM Associates to
subdivide an existing approximately 10.0 acre lot developed with three
homes into seven single family home lots ranging from 0.67 acres to 3.0
acres and one 1.0 acre open space lot, 850 Hinesburg Road:
The applicant noted the request is for 6 single family lots and one open space lot.
The existing house would be on its own lot. The 2 lots down below would have
an access road.
Staff comments were addressed as follows:
#1. The applicant was asked to confirm that this area is served by municipal
water and sewer. Mr. Wright said it is.
#2. The applicant was asked what type of open space is anticipated. Ms.
Wright said they are planning a community garden.
#3. The applicant was asked how the proposed civic space will be accessed
and how that access will be visible from the street. Mr. Wright said a private drive
will give a right-of-way to the community garden. He showed the location of the
garden on a plan and indicated access from all units. Ms. Keene said there will be
need to be clarification as to whether the garden will have community access or
serve only residents of the development.
#4. The applicant was asked to address the issue of having all homes
fronting on a street. Ms. Keene said houses have to face a street or a civic space.
She indicated the houses on the plan that do not meet this requirement. Mr.
Wright said there is a slope, and houses are at different levels. The view to the
east is beautiful, and it would be nice if houses could face that way. Mr. Kochman
asked if the driveway were made to be 20’, which is the width of a street, could
that qualify as a street. Ms. Keene said the Board would have to find it is not
feasible to go to the property line and be less than 200 feet. Staff is suggesting
continuing the private street to the third home with a future right-of-way reserved
to the adjacent lot. That would allow all lots to front on that street. Ms. Wright
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said if they adjust the property line on Lot 1 to allow Lot 2 to be a larger house,
then only 2 homes are served by the private road. Ms. Keene felt that extending
the road is easiest, but there may be another path forward. Mr. Wright said that
would take a lot of money, and his sisters, who own the other lots, have no plans
to do anything with them. He had no problem making the driveway 20 feet wide.
#5. This was already addressed.
#6. Addressed with #4. Ms. Keene noted this item includes a PUD option
which the applicant has no interest in.
#7. Already addressed.
#8. Staff assumed this will be a 2-phase project. Mr. Wright said the second
phase would be into the future, and there are no plans for that.
#9. This item was resolved.
Mr. Behr said he loved the idea of having some development but still keeping the
character of the property.
Public comment was then solicited. There was no public comment.
8. Minutes of 3 January 2024:
Mr. Moscatelli moved to approve the Minutes of 3 January 2024 with the
correction of the spelling of Mr. Johnston’s name. Mr. Behr seconded. Motion
passed unanimously.
9. Other Business:
No other business was presented.
As there was no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was
adjourned by common consent at 9:42 p.m.
These minutes were approved by the Board on ____________.
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DRAFT MINUTES
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD
6 FEBRUARY 2024
The South Burlington Development Review Board held a regular meeting on
Tuesday, 6 February 2024, at 7:00 p.m. in the Auditorium, City Hall, 180 Market
Street, and via Go to Meeting interactive technology.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Q. Mann, Acting Chair; F. Kochman, Q. Mann, S. Wyman, J.
Moscatelli, C. Johnston
ALSO PRESENT: M. Keene, Development Review Planner; M. Gillies, Planner; T.
Reilly, G. Dixson, E. Braco, L. Ravin, M. Murray-Clasen, D. Read, T. Librot, J.
Larkin, D. Messier, C. Perron, A. Halpern, L. Kingsbury, Gordon F., A. Duren,
Claire, L. Hillman, Cynthia, S. Homsted, J. Smith, Sarah C., Choate, A. Gill, E.
Langfeldt, L. Ravin
1. Instructions on exiting the building in case of an emergency:
Ms. Mann provided instructions on emergency exit from the building.
2. Additions, deletions, or changes in order of agenda items:
No changes were made to the agenda.
3. Comments and questions from the public not related to the Agenda:
No issues were raised.
4. Announcements:
There were no announcements.
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5. Continued Master Plan Application #MP-23-01 of John Larkin, Inc., to
establish a master plan for an approximately 40-acre existing PUD
consisting of 270 residential units in 8 multi-family buildings, a 20,000 sf
movie theater, a 22,500 sf restaurant/medical office building, and a
3,500 sf restaurant with drive-through. The master plan includes 4
phases and consists of adding approximately 92,105 sf of commercial
space including a 110-room hotel, approximately 281 homes in multi-
family and mixed use buildings, 6 homes in 2-family buildings,
approximately 5 acres of programmed and passive open spaces, and
extending a city street, 1185 Shelburne Road:
Ms. Wyman was recused from this application due to a potential conflict of
interest.
Members reviewed several staff comments that were not part of the original list of
comments.
Staff noted that a subdivision would be needed for buildings to be on their own
lots and that lots should be rectangular. Mr. Gillies showed the plan and indicated
where a lot is not squared up to the street. The applicant said it was drawn that
way because of the parking lot, but it can be squared off with no problem.
Ms. Mann noted that the applicants request to waive preliminary plat cannot be
granted because of subdivision of land. Members agreed they still would hold to
that decisions.
#3. Members were asked to discuss whether the applicant’s proposal to
provide an appropriate range of building heights and include that range as part of
the Master Plan was acceptable. The applicant showed a building Master Plan
enlargement with building heights indicated. Mr. Gillies noted there is a 44-foot to
76-foot range of building heights. Mr. Kochman said he tended not to give that
waiver in order to avoid a solid block of 76-foot buildings which would be
objectionable to him. Mr. Gillies noted the maximum height for this district is 76
feet, so there is no request for a waiver. Ms. Keene said the request is to building
between 44 feet and 76 feet. Mr. Kochman said he was not comfortable
exceeding the height of the building on the corner, but if it is within the
regulations, he was OK with it. Other members were comfortable with that range.
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#4. The applicant was asked to describe the anticipated heights for the
remaining phases of the development. The applicant indicated 22-44 feet for the
town homes. The Old Orchard buildings will be the same as the existing Old
Orchard buildings. The others will be similar to building #1.
#5. The applicant was asked to review the list of what can be vested. Mr.
Gillies showed the list which included: phase geometry, phase timing, open space
areas & civic space areas, natural resource impacts, proposed recreation path,
sidewalk and transit route layout, buildings locations and footprints, and
maximum peak hour trip generations. Mr. Larkin said he was fine with this. Mr.
Gillies suggested adding the range of building heights for phases 1 and 2.
Members agreed.
Discussion then returned to the previous list of staff comments as follows:
#28. The applicant was asked to discuss the impact of the requirement for
rooftop solar. The applicant indicated the wish to discuss this at site plan review.
Mr. Kochman asked whether solar installations count toward building height. Mr.
Gillies said they do not.
#29. The applicant was asked to discuss the timing of civic space and site
amenities. Ms. Mann noted that the dog park has been moved and increased in
size. The applicant indicated they had reorganized the neighborhood and dog
parks. Only the dog park is in phase 1 now because of changes to stormwater.
Ms. Keene said minor changes that don’t change substance are OK. Members
were good with that.
The applicant noted there will be more plantings around the stormwater area, and
the playground has been moved closer to where most of the housing is located.
#30. The applicant was asked to discuss the timing of the completion of the
streetscape improvements along Fayette Drive. The applicant said they were
trying to spread out the improvements. Fayette narrows down, so there isn’t
much room for bike access. They are trying to distribute it so it is easier to
finance. They also noted there is already a sidewalk along Fayette.
#31. Mr. Gillies suggested possibly considering consolidating the 3 phases.
There is a question as to whether the rec path should be complete prior to phase
4. Mr. Kochman said he didn’t think it was a game stopper, but felt sooner is
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better than later. The applicant said they did not want to build something that
would later have to be torn up to do a later phase. Members agreed that was
rational.
#32. The applicant was asked to discuss the construction timelines with
specific focus on how likely it is that the entire project will be completed within 6
years. The applicant said it is possible Phase 4 won’t be built within the 6-year
timeline. Mr. Gillies said that stretching to 10 years would be OK. Mr. Larkin said
they feel they will have roads, etc., in the right places, but the buildings might not
necessarily be done within 6 years. Ms. Keene said that phases 1-3 could be
vested, possibly not phase 4. Mr. Larkin said the aim is to build as quickly as
possible. Mr. Moscatelli said the Board doesn’t need as much detail on phase 4 as
on phases 1-3. Even if phase 4 is vested, the applicant might have to come back.
Mr. Gillies said Mr. Conner wanted things “tightened up,” but this could be
discussed in deliberation. Ms. Mann said she thought they had enough
information to vest phase 4 except for the building heights which are vested only
for phases 1 and 2.
#33. Staff said the applicant should be required to provide phase by phase
construction plans to identify construction areas, temporary parking, etc. The
applicant asked that this be handled as part of Site Plan review. Ms. Mann noted
it is in the LDRs as part of phasing plans. The applicant said they do not have that
level of detail now. Ms. Mann suggested more of a narrative description. Ms.
Keene indicated an area where there is a question of where people would park
during construction. The applicant said there are lots of other areas for parking
on the site. Mr. Gillies said this is a required element of a Master Plan. The
applicant said there would have to be a plan for each building. They could put
something together, but they would not guarantee that is what would happen.
Ms. Keene was nervous about not addressing this as staff has seen developers
“build themselves into a corner.” Mr. Kochman said he felt they have to require
it. Mr. Larkin said they will work with staff on it.
#34. Staff recommends revising the management plan to address items for
public dedication and when they will be proposed for dedication. The applicant
agreed to discuss this when the hearing continues.
Public comment was then solicited. There was no public comment.
Ms. Mann moved to continue MP-23-01 to 5 March 2024. Mr. Kochman seconded.
Motion passed 4-0.
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Ms. Wyman rejoined the board.
6. Master Plan Sketch Plan Application #SD-24-01 of University of
Vermont & State Agricultural College to establish a master plan for an
existing 87.6-acre lot developed with a parking lot, supporting
driveways, and a helipad. The master plan consists of 275 units of
housing in two 5-story buildings over 2 phases, and associated site
improvements on 5.7 acres, 0 Catamount Drive:
Ms. Kingsbury said that UVM and AAM15 are doing this project. The land is
owned by UVM. The public/private project will house upper class and graduate
students.
Mr. Libro, representing the ownership of the hotel, said they are happy to be
providing housing for UVM students. The hope is to pull students out of the
residential community to make more housing available to the public. He added
that the parking garage and expansion of the hotel fall under the Form Base Code.
Mr. Hodgson said the project is at the northwest corner of the interchange. He
identified the rugby pitch and heliport and showed where the apartment building
would sit (the current parking lot).
Staff comments were then addressed as follows:
#1. The applicant was asked to describe the proposed phasing and indicate
whether they will seek approval for all of the project. Ms. Ravin said the plan is
that the rugby field housing would occur in 3-5 years. This will focus on the main
building. The new hotel will be completed by December 2025. The demolition of
the hold hotel wing and parking garage would happen by December 2025.
Construction of Catamount Woods would occur by July 2026. The Master Plan
includes phase 2, but they have no details of that as yet.
#2. The applicant was asked about the stormwater treatment associated
with phase 2. Mr. Hodgson said the plan is to expand the “Main Street Pond.”
They already have funds for that. They will be revising the river corridor line. He
showed the plan that is being worked on with the State. Mr. Kochman said that
would have to be part of an approval. Ms. Keene said they would have an update
by then. The Master Plan would lay out the general plan so the city will know that
the stormwater plan can exist.
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#3. Since buildings must front on a street, the driveway would have to be
changed to a street. The applicant said the driveway is 24 feet wide. They are
proposing a multi-use path on the west side and a sidewalk on the east side. They
want to call it a “neighborhood street” and have it be 12 feet instead of 10 feet to
allow for a bus. A 25 mph speed limit seems reasonable. The aim is to have no
parking on the street; otherwise a bus could not go through. They asked if it
would be possible to make it a “rural connector” and decrease the speed. Mr.
Kochman said the DRB should see how much discretion they have. He felt it
makes no sense to have a street be similar to something a mile away. He asked
staff to look into that. Members agreed.
#4. The applicant was asked to describe the management structure. Ms.
Kingsbury said the ownership is a partnership between UVM and a subsidiary of
AAM15. AAM15 will operate the building. UVM will be an intended user in the
initial phase. There is a 20-year intended use for students which could then
change to the general public. The University’s legal counsel said the land lease
agreement does actively involve UVM, and UVM will have total say in some
things. That information will be provided to the City. Mr. Libro added that AAM15
is not involved in phase 2.
#5. It was noted that the applicant is not requesting any process waivers at
this time. Staff asked if this is OK. Ms. Kingsbury said they would like to do
Master Plan and Preliminary Plat together and then do Final Plat and Site Plan.
Ms. Ravin said they would like to know what is customary. Ms. Keene said “not
much.” She added that what could be reviewed administratively would fall under
this. Ms. Kingsbury said they might want a more streamlined process. Ms. Mann
said they should bring that information to the DRB at the Master Plan hearing.
#6. The applicant was asked to indicate what they want to vest at the Master
Plan level. Ms. Ravin said they don’t have that information as yet.
#7. Regarding buildable area, staff noted it looks like 11 buildable acres.
That would allow only 130 units without consideration of affordable units. Ms.
Ravin said that State Statute 24VSA, Section 4413 indicated that UVM is not
subject to habitat block and other restrictions. Mr. Kochman said this is student
housing, and he felt they would have a hard case to make. UVM’s legal counsel
said student housing is recognized as an educational use. UVM will provide case
law to support this. Mr. Moscatelli said the fact that it might not be student
housing in 20 years raises a question as to whether it is strictly speaking an
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educational use. The attorney said that will be addressed in writing. Ms. Keene
said if the Board disagrees, there is another path forward. A Conservation PUD
could be created with a transfer of the allowable units from the Conservation area
to get the density.
#8. Staff noted that zoning district boundaries should be shown on the plan.
Ms. Ravin said that will be done at the next stage.
#9. The applicant was asked to discuss the plans with the Bike/Ped
Committee. Mr. Moscatelli stressed the need to have adequate indoor bike
parking. Mr. Ravin said they are fine with that.
#10. The applicant was asked whether they prefer a general or conservation
PUD. Ms. Ravin said they are planning on a general PUD.
#11. The applicant was asked to address the reduced parking and reduced
setbacks. Ms. Ravin said there will be “green courtyards.” She added this is a
dense site with limited parking. There will be shared accessibility. Regarding
setbacks, the project is just north of the Form Base Code area, and they are trying
to align with that standard. It would be a continuous view as you come through.
#12. The applicant was asked to address how the development
complements the context. Ms. Ravin said there are mostly large buildings and
parking lots. They feel the new building will fit in this context.
#13. Staff noted that civic spaces must meet one of the listed types. Mr.
Hodgson said they are looking to designate multi-use path as a greenway and
Centennial Woods could also qualify under the “green,” and courtyards satisfy
the site amenities. There is also a possible pocket park opposite the conference
area. Ms. Keene noted that 10% of the space must be civic space. She also noted
that this is the first proposed “greenway.”
#14. This was not addressed at this meeting.
#15. The applicant was asked to confirm that an exemption to inclusionary
zoning applies. Mr. Libro said it is clear that if the building were to become used
by the general public, they would have to comply with the inclusionary
regulations. Ms. Keene said this will have to be a condition of the permit. The
applicant was also asked to address the mix of bedroom numbers. Ms. Ravin said
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they are still working on that and are considering 1 through 4 bedrooms. All will
be self-contained apartments. She stressed that this will not be a dormitory.
Public comment was then solicited. There was no public comment.
7. Sketch Plan Application #SD-24-03 of O’Brien Eastview, LLC, to amend a
previously approved plan for a planned unit development of 155 homes
in single family, duplex, and 3-family dwellings on 11 lots totaling 23.9
acres, 24 commercial development lots totaling 39.8 acres, and 25.2
acres of undeveloped or recreational open spaces. The amendment
consists of adding a 0.17 acre battery storage microgrid in an area
previously approved or open space, adding 14 units in 2-family homes,
replacing 2 large single-family homes with 5 detached cottage-style
units, and other minor amendments, 500 Old Farm Road:
Staff comments were addressed as follows:
#1. Staff expressed concern with the open-ended phasing request and
asked if the Board would accept that. Mr. Gill explained the “monsoon nature” of
lot #18 and said that weather can impede the ability to complete a project. They
are looking for the ability to extend things when they are working in good faith
and things go wrong. Mr. Gill added they have been trying to deal with one
conduit for over a year and a half. They are asking to give the administrative
officer the ability to extend for a few weeks or so. Mr. Kochman said if staff can
fashion something regarding seasonal conditions, he was OK with that; with other
problems he felt the applicant should come back to the DRB. Mr. Langfeldt added
that they have been waiting for things from the city for months as well. Mr.
Kochman said he is limited to “seasonability.” He added that the DRB is
reasonable about other issues. Mr. Gill said the problem is the time it takes to get
something through the review process when they have to come back to the
Board. Mr. Kochman asked whether they can be given a 2-week notice to get on
an agenda. Ms. Keene said she couldn’t give a “yes” to that. Ms. Mann said
“seasonability” is cut and dry. She wouldn’t want to put more of a burden on
staff. Mr. Gill noted that some playground equipment has taken more than a year
and a half to show up. Ms. Keene suggested “uncontrollable factors.” Mr. Gill
said they would accept that language. Mr. Kochman said he would accept a
particular list, something like “a supply chain issue.” Mr. Gill said they will
provide specific examples.
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#2. Regarding matching the Act 250 approval, staff asked for a plan to show
this. Mr. Gill said they will do that.
#3. The applicant was asked to provide information regarding the height
waiver for 14 homes. Mr. Gill said they will provide that.
#4. The applicant was asked to describe the height waiver being requested
for pre- and post-construction grade. Mr. Gill explained the area next to the park
where this applies. They feel the 14 homes will fit in well. They will be 3 stories,
facing the street. A previous plan was approved with those houses. At final plat,
it was realized that they were not permittable, and they were removed from the
plan. They would like to add them back now that there are new rules. The design
is the same as in the previous plan. Mr. Gill showed photos of existing similar
homes. Mr. Langfeldt said they feel those homes provide a better transition to the
more commercial area. Ms. Keene said the DRB can grant the height waiver
under current regulations.
#6 (heard before #5). Staff questioned the garage placement which was OK
under the previous regulations but is not OK now. Ms. Keene said she believes
the façade requirement can be waived by the Board. Mr. Langfeldt said this is the
lowest price home they have been able to offer Ms. Keene said the Board can
modify standards with the exception of 5 (she showed a list of those), provided
the modification meets the intent of the PUD and doesn’t have an adverse effect
on anything in the area and better meets the purpose of the PUD. The issue is the
width of the garages. Mr. Gill said the homes are very dense, and the design
allows them to get more homes on that stretch of road and increases affordability.
The applicant agreed to write a narrative on how those homes meet the
requirements. Ms. Mann said she thought there is a continuity with what is
already built.
#5. Staff noted that Lot 36 homes do not meet orientation standards and
asked the applicant to revise the design to have the homes face a central
courtyard. This was shown on the plan. Mr. Gill said they thought it made more
sense to amend the plan to have more and smaller, lower-price homes. The
approved alleyway would serve 5 more cottages. They have added more
landscaping. This increases the total homes by 3. #B610 may be removed so it
doesn’t get “shoe-horned.” Mr. Kochman asked for a written statement as to how
they meet the waiver criteria.
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#7. The applicant was asked to find another location for the on-site battery
storage. Ms. Keene showed the parcel dedicated to the city. Any change to the
land or use would require city approval. Mr. Gill showed the Energy Standards
Certificate for a home. They spent a lot of time as to where the battery storage
would go. It was not a reduced space (that was a staff error); the change was the
shape. The building does not touch the playing field area. It is a 12% slope with
“garbage trees,” buckthorn, etc. There will still be 3 playing fields in that area.
Mr. Gill was confident the City Council will allow it. Ms. Keene said the biggest
change is the grading. This is the only relatively level area, and taking away from
that is a concern. Mr. Langfeldt said there is a one-acre level park just down the
hill from this. Mr. Gill showed a photo of the area. Mr. Moscatelli asked why this
site was chosen for the battery building. Mr. Clasen of Green Mountain Power
said there were 4 concerns: proximity to the mainline distribution system, access
for maintenance, the level site, and aesthetic screening. The building will be
enclosed by sonaguard fencing. He showed a rendering of what the enclosure
would look like. Mr. Kochman said there would also have to be an amended
deed. He asked if the 17,000 sq. ft. would be a usable area lot. Mr. Gill said it
would not. He didn’t think the sloped area was unusable. He suggested it could
be used for a picnic, throwing a Frisbee, etc. Ms. Keene said staff would defer to
the opinion of the Recreation Director. Mr. Kochman asked if staff would weigh
that against the value placed on it by the Board. Mr. Johnston said that would be
up to the City Council. Mr. Moscatelli said it seems to be a good place to put it.
He favored recommending the change. Mr. Kochman asked what the battery
serves. Mr. Clasen said it is part of the microgrid for homes in the neighborhood
and provides additional layers of resiliency with a fully electric neighborhood.
Homes can have high usage times, etc. Mr. Kochman suggested having it as an
easement and not reducing the acreage. Mr. Gill said there are benefits to having
a lot, including insurance issues. Ms. Quinn felt the Board was OK with the
location and asked the applicant to get input from the Recreation Director
regarding final grade, etc.
Public comment was then solicited.
Ms. Keene noted a written comment from the Wheelers who are neighbors. They
are opposed to the location of the battery storage building and want assurance
there will be no sound impact. Mr. Clausen said there is some ambient noise,
between 60-65 dbs in the area. He didn’t believe that level would be increased
due to the battery building. He added that a sound analysis would be part of the
permitting process. Mr. Kochman noted the nighttime performance standard is 45
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dbs. Mr. Clausen said he didn’t believe they would exceed that. A study will be
done to determine that.
8. Minutes of 5 December 2023 and 17 January 2024:
Due to the late hour, members agreed to postpone approval of the minutes.
9. Other Business:
No other business was presented.
As there was no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was
adjourned by common consent at 10:41 p.m.
The Board approved these minutes on ________________.