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This is Adam Glaser, I currently own and live at 99 Holmes Rd. I was pleasantly surprised and relieved
when I saw the sketch of the proposed redesign of the TND on Lot 1 of the Allenwood project. It seems
the developer listened to the concerns of the ciƟzens of the Holmes Rd. neighborhood and came up with
a proposal that aƩempted to minimize the disrupƟon to the exisƟng neighborhood. I was then surprised
and disheartened when I read Paul Conner’s comments on the potenƟal redesign of the PUD. I would
have hoped that the comments would begin with “the redesign does well to preserve in some sense a
special and unique Holmes Rd. neighborhood.” My hope is that the board will take the proposed
redesign as a new starƟng point and work with the developer. The proposed redesign largely minimizes
the disrupƟon and uninvited change to the current Holmes Rd. neighborhood. I would think the board
would want applicants to try to avoid harming and altering the abuƫng neighborhoods in ways that
diminish the original neighborhood’s charm and characterisƟcs.
I don’t like the idea of government telling an exisƟng neighborhood that they know what is best for us.
Every person on Holmes Rd. wishes to maintain their current road and has expressed desire not to be
subsumed into the new development, which would completely alter the neighborhood we all choose to
live in. The developer has graciously come up with a new design that allows for the current
neighborhood to maintain a semblance of its current state. However, the notes from Paul Conner seem
to imply that the board knows what’s best for the current residents of Holmes Rd. thinking we are
somehow disconnected and lack a sense of neighborhood. I would state that our neighborhood is
unique and special and has such a strong sense of connecƟon that it needs to be preserved in order to
not ruin what is an amazing place. There are typically a couple Ɵmes per year that the enƟre
neighborhood is invited to somebody’s house. Our sense of community is not a funcƟon of the size of
our community and I haven’t experienced this sense of community before… ever. The connecƟon to
adjacent neighborhoods will be greatly improved by the proposed walking/bike path. That is
appreciated and more than sufficient. We are also just a few hundred feet from Rt. 7 which makes us far
from being isolated.
I think when there are two TND’s adjacent to one another it may make sense to connect them but our
current neighborhood and the proposed neighborhood are quite dissimilar and we’ve all expressed our
desire to try to maintain as much of our current neighborhood feel as possible. We all expressed that
desire when we bought our homes in the current unique neighborhood and not a larger subdivision.
When it comes to making changes to the current unique Holmes Rd. neighborhood, I hope that the
board can take our opinions as to what is best for us, and put those ahead of the more generic
neighborhood guideline that have been established. We are not the ones asking for permission to
develop, we are the ones asking the board to minimize the harm done to us by the proposed
development. The developer has made this revision as an effort to take a step towards allowing us to
maintain our neighborhood. I hope the board would be willing to work with the developer to allow for a
few minor deviances from the TND in order to not destroy what is what most if not all residents of
Holmes Rd believe is one of the best current neighborhoods, we have ever lived in.
Lastly, I would ask the board to ensure that the water quality of the Lake and the un-named stream that
enters the lake at 99 Holmes Rd. is not overlooked. The proposed development of Allenwood will add a
large amount of impermeable surface to a wetland just a few hundred feet from the lake, that water
stands on the field currently but with the proposed neighborhood that water will have to flow without
being filtered by the land, more directly into the Lake. That combined with the considerable amount of
impermeable surface on the Larkin project will certainly add to the stormwater that comes down the un-
named stream that flows from there through Farrell’s property and eventually through my property, and
to the lake. The added polluƟon to this stream needs to be addressed as it will likely be the recipient of
water from both of these projects. Hopefully these proposed developments will be an opportunity to
improve the quality of water that runs off into Lake Champlain instead of making the polluƟon worse.
Thank You
Adam Glaser
p.s. as menƟoned on the site visit, for those board members that want to walk Holmes Rd. and/or lot 1
you are free to park on my driveway at 99 Holmes Rd. I don’t need any noƟce, it’s fairly large and has
easy access to both the road and field.
Michael H. Lipson
125 Holmes Road Ext.
South Burlington, Vermont 05403
Tel. (802) 863-0296
Email: mlip2@yahoo.com
November 5, 2023
Memorandum to: South Burlington Development Review Board [DRB]
Re: 1195 Shelburne Road/25 Bartlett Bay Road
MASTER PLAN SKETCH PLAN APPLICATION #SD-23-12
Dear Members of the DRB:
I live at 125 Holmes Road Extension, adjacent to the proposed
Farrell/Allenwood development.
I would appreciate it if the DRB members would consider these comments in
connection with their November 7, 2023 meeting on this project.
1. Insufficient Notice. The memorandum regarding this meeting stated:
"the applicant has elected to present a wholly different version of this [the
development layout], which is discussed more thoroughly under Public
Comment below."
We wish to have the record show that this new version has only been
made available to us as of this past weekend, making it very difficult to
formulate views on it. This is hardly adequate notice. I understand that a
request was made for Eric Farrell to send it at the site visit on Thursday,
but that was not done.
This being said, we think that the new layout is in certain ways
preferable to what was submitted earlier, contrary to staff’s apparent
view. (This does not mean we may not find significant problems with it.)
2. Status and Legal Consequences of this (11/7/23) Meeting. We would
like to know whether this meeting is a “hearing” in which the master
plan application meets the minimum required? If not, what is the legal
implication of this meeting?
a. Certain staff comments in the agenda refer to "Official Map Public
Parkland Open Space.” These appear to relate to some issue
concerning a public park shown on a City Map (it is not clear this
is an official map at this time) sited on private property owned by
the David Farrell Trust as well as a landowner on Holmes Road
Ext.
To the best of my knowledge, there has been no official notification
to adjoining landowners that this issue is included in the present
application under review by this board. At a minimum, we request
clarification about why it has been included as part of the
discussion of this project. We trust it will not result in a decision
without input from the public on a formal record.
b. Related to the foregoing comments, staff also stated that
“applicant indicated it is their intention to deliver a final master
plan application that meets the minimums required for a hearing
but does not anticipate submitting all details so as to reduce
expenditure prior to the City Council having the opportunity to
move forward with acquisition of the public park. Official Map
Public Park and Open Space."
If there is no master plan, or it is incomplete, how can we or other
South Burlington citizens make meaningful comments on the
proposed project?
3. Regarding the proposed plan for maintaining the current private
road. We and others in our small neighborhood want to retain our
current access to our homes. Comments from DRB staff seem to suggest
that they do not want that to happen. "PUD standards require
development to be configured to maximize connections with adjoining
parcels and neighborhoods, and avoid creating isolated and disconnected
enclaves of development..."
a. Ensuring that this new development is connected to its surrounds
does not require that it be connected to us. We are not applying
for a development permit. We exist. We here, in what is being
called the “Lakefront neighborhood,” actively chose to live where
we do. We are of different ages, backgrounds, and have very
diverse houses. We also jointly maintain the private road, to which
each of us has deeded rights to ingress and egress, and we
coordinate things such as propane delivery. Some of us raised, or
are raising, children here and participate in many aspects of South
Burlington life. One of us was born here.
b. The comment above is among various comments concerning
neighborhood connectivity. We do NOT feel disconnected from the
city. Indeed, we are about as connected as anyone could be in
South Burlington given our access to Shelburne Rd. and our
ability to walk to several adjoining neighborhoods and parks
(which several of us do regularly). As our own children grew up,
they had friends in far-flung parts of South Burlington. No matter
how much you want to build intimacy within a neighborhood, I
hope that you also want to encourage reaching out across our
relatively sprawling small city to experience its diversity.
c. There is a troubling sense that the DRB and/or its staff would like
to control all aspects of residential life in South Burlington.
Quote: “…the potential redesign proliferates the existing
substandard dead-end road, reducing rather than improving
neighborhood connectivity in a manner similar to Dorset Farms or
the Orchards." There is a fine line between enhancing the quality
of life and demanding that everyone have the same ideas about
quality of life. Having a vision for future development should
always be balanced with the ways in which diversity provides its
own value. Maintaining our current access is not an act of
“proliferation.” Rather it is a choice – one to which we are entitled
as citizens. We would ask that the DRB reconsider its view that we
cannot be left alone.
I will add, quoting Justice Louis Brandeis of the United States
Supreme Court, although in a different context: “The protection
guaranteed by the [Fourth and Fifth] Amendments is much
broader in scope. The makers of our Constitution undertook to
secure conditions favorable to the pursuit of happiness. *** They
conferred, as against the Government, the right to be let alone -- the
most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by
civilized men.” Olmstead v. United States (1928).
4. Habitat Block Overlay. Since we are aware that the forested area to the
South and East of Holmes Rd. Ext. is a wildlife habitat, and that
apparently the applicant intends to eliminate the forest barrier to the
east of us entirely, or to substantially reduce it, we have a concern about
the staff’s comments concerning the availability of some sort of waiver or
other exception to the requirements of LDR 12.04 et seq. regarding the
Habitat Block Overlay District. In particular, we would request that the
DRB identify the area designated as a Habitat Block in the acreage to the
south and east of Holmes Rd. Ext., exactly how it will be treated in the
plan, and explain the manner in which a swap of other property
“contiguous” to this would be accomplished. I would note that the term
“contiguous”, which is undefined in the LDR definitions, has a common
and accepted meaning that includes “touching” or “in actual contact”.
Thank you for your attention to these comments.
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Marla Keene
From:Marty Gillies
Sent:Friday, November 3, 2023 12:25 PM
To:Marla Keene; Marty Gillies
Subject:11/7 DRB public comment
Hi Marla,
Flagging this for both of us – these are the comments from the NRCC on both the Larkin and Farrell sketch plans. Not
sure the best way to distribute this to Board but happy to work on this on Monday!
Best,
Marty
Marty Gillies
Development Review Planner
City of South Burlington Planning & Zoning Department
180 Market Street, South Burlington, VT 05401
(802) 846-4106
www.sbvt.gov
From: Dave Wheeler <dwheeler@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2023 9:30 AM
To: Marty Gillies <mgillies@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Subject: NRCC Comments on Larkin and Farrell Properties
Hi Marty,
See comments below from the NRCC
To: South Burlington Development Review Board (DRB)
From: Natural Resource and Conservation Committee (NRCC)
Re: Development Proposals from the Larkin and Farrell Properties
Date: November 3, 2023
At its recent meeting, the NRCC discussed two separate proposals for housing construction on two
separate but close-by properties. The Committee reviewed the maps given to us from the City and we
have several observations and questions.
The Larkin Property:
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Sidewalks, walkways, and bike paths. We see no way for residents to access public
transportation or stores once they leave the proposed cluster of homes. As it now looks, walking
or riding a bike would be very unsafe because one would need to be traveling in car traffic.
Recommendation: A plan for sidewalks and a bike path to be extended from the property to the
Hannaford’s shopping center and Rt.7.
Enhanced Landscaping: We see no expanded plans for extended tree coverage in and around the
area. The maps show a great deal of impervious cover with asphalt, and more shading with
canopy trees would soften the landscape and make for a more livable environment.
Recommendation: A commitment to plant more shade trees on the whole lot replacing brush
and bushes surrounding buildings.
The Farrell Property:
Sidewalks, walkways and bike paths. We see residents trapped by the railroad tracks with no
way to leave the area without driving their car. Residents need to be able to walk or bike to Rt 7 to
access stores and public transportation without driving their car.
Recommendation: Construct bike and walkways so residents can come and go without using
their car.
Class II Wetlands. It appears to us that a large portion of the proposed building area might be a
Class II wetlands.
Recommendation: Do a site visit to this location and have a person from the State make that
assessment.
Endanger Plants: We have been informed that there may be some endangered species of plants
in this area where homes are proposed.
Recommendation: Have a specialist make an assessment of this area.
Wildlife Corridor: The map shows proposed homes cutting off an important wildlife corridor
along the shoreline.
Recommendation: Have an assessment done to be sure this proposal does on adversely impact wildlife
in this unprotect area on the lake.