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Home My WebLink AboutSP-23-013 - Supplemental - 1233 Shelburne Road (4)1 Betsy Brown From:Abby A. Dery, PE <Abby.Dery@tcevt.com> Sent:Friday, April 14, 2023 10:39 AM To:Marty Gillies; Roger Dickinson, PE; Marla Keene Subject:RE: 'EXTERNAL'FW: 1233 Shelburne Road - what we have so far Yes, and I will quote the historic 160 peak hour trip value as the budget. From: Marty Gillies <mgillies@southburlingtonvt.gov> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:39 PM To: Abby A. Dery, PE <Abby.Dery@tcevt.com>; Roger Dickinson, PE <Roger.Dickinson@tcevt.com>; Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov> Subject: RE: 'EXTERNAL'FW: 1233 Shelburne Road - what we have so far Maybe a rounding error somewhere back in the day… that looks good to me, thanks for sending it over. In terms of next steps, I assume you all will be revising the traffic analysis that you had previously sent over? Let me know if you need anything else from us! Marty Gillies Development Review Planner City of South Burlington Planning & Zoning Department 180 Market Street, South Burlington, VT 05401 (802) 846-4106 www.sbvt.gov From: Abby A. Dery, PE <Abby.Dery@tcevt.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 1:32 PM To: Marty Gillies <mgillies@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Roger Dickinson, PE <Roger.Dickinson@tcevt.com>; Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov> Subject: RE: 'EXTERNAL'FW: 1233 Shelburne Road - what we have so far Thanks for the IT assistance. I got back in and I found zoning permits for all of the buildings, getting us w/in 200 SF of the 48,000 SF mentioned in the approval: 2 From: Marty Gillies <mgillies@southburlingtonvt.gov> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 10:47 AM To: Abby A. Dery, PE <Abby.Dery@tcevt.com>; Roger Dickinson, PE <Roger.Dickinson@tcevt.com>; Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov> Subject: RE: 'EXTERNAL'FW: 1233 Shelburne Road - what we have so far Hi Abby, As long as that work was actually implemented, that number will work for us! I did a quick search and it looks like, although it has since been converted to the ‘Eagles Club’, the 150-seat restaurant was permitted (http://sbvt-records.info/WebLink/DocView.aspx?id=263282&dbid=0&repo=SBurl) and got a CO (http://sbvt-records.info/WebLink/DocView.aspx?id=78482&dbid=0&repo=SBurl). The footprint of the office buildings on the site appears to be 27,323 sf. I’d imagine the second floors of those buildings brings the total square footage of office use on the site up to the 48,000 approved in that Site Plan, but that would need to be confirmed. Let me know if you have any questions! Best, Marty Marty Gillies Development Review Planner City of South Burlington Planning & Zoning Department 180 Market Street, South Burlington, VT 05401 (802) 846-4106 www.sbvt.gov From: Abby A. Dery, PE <Abby.Dery@tcevt.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:14 AM To: Marty Gillies <mgillies@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Roger Dickinson, PE <Roger.Dickinson@tcevt.com>; Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov> Subject: 'EXTERNAL'FW: 1233 Shelburne Road - what we have so far This message has originated from an External Source. Please use proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email. Good afternoon- 3 Would you be able to use the 86-0001 decision (attached) with the noted 160 PM peak hour trips for the original traffic budget? This was issued in 4/8/1986 for 48,000 SF office and a 150 seat restaurant. The 3/10/1986 traffic letter indicated an increase of 35 Peak Hour trips (original 1986 01 study noted 125 trips for 37,000 SF office + restaurant), which would bring the total to 160 PM Peak Hour trips, as noted in the approval. Thanks! Abby From: Marty Gillies <mgillies@southburlingtonvt.gov> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 10:07 AM To: Abby A. Dery, PE <Abby.Dery@tcevt.com>; Roger Dickinson, PE <Roger.Dickinson@tcevt.com> Cc: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov> Subject: 1233 Shelburne Road - what we have so far Good Morning, Thanks for taking the time to touch base with us on this one. The minutes in this PDF (SB PC 85-87) have been put on Laserfiche as well, it appears (http://sbvt- records.info/WebLink/Browse.aspx?id=136903&dbid=0&repo=SBurl). This approval includes the “310 pm peak-hour trip” nugget that we latched onto, but was subsequently revised a number of times and we sort of lost the trail as we tried to follow this project through the various Final Plat revisions to the final project. If you are able to find the number of trips approved in conjunction with the iteration of the Final Plat that was actually constructed, we would accept that number as the pre-existing trip budget for the site. Alternatively, if you can calculate the number of trips that would have been generated, and thereby approved, by the highest-generating configuration of uses ever constructed on the site, we would also accept that number as the pre- existing trip budget for the property. For example, if the project got Zoning Permits & COs for 50,000 sf of office space in 1989 and the edition of ITE in effect at that time assigned ‘general office’ a trip generation of 5 VTEs per 1,000 sf, we would accept that the property was approved for 250 pm peak hour trips and apply that maximum to today. Let us know if you have any questions! 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