HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - City Charter Committee - 03/08/2023CITY CHARTER COMMITTEE 8 MARCH 2023
The South Burlington City Charter Committee held a meeting on Wednesday, 8 March 2023,
at 4:00 p.m., in Conference Room 201, City Hall, 180 Market Street.
MEMBERS PRESENT: P. Taylor, Chair; A. Lalonde, D. Kinville, P. Engels
ALSO PRESENT: J. Baker, City Manager, C. McNeil, City Attorney; M. Emery
1. Welcome and Introductions:
Mr. Taylor welcomed members.
2. Agenda Review
No changes were made to the agenda.
3. Comments & Questions from the public not related to the Agenda:
No issues were raised.
4. Approve Minutes from the 8 February 2023 meeting:
Ms. Lalonde moved to approve the Minutes of 8 February 2023 as written. Mr. Engels
seconded. Motion passed with all present voting in favor.
5. Discuss and Finalize the Advantages and Disadvantages of different models to
present to the community:
Ms. Lalonde said she had put the Committee’s lists into a form so that people would know what
each bullet point means. She also combined some items but left nothing out.
Members discussed each item and agreed on the following document:
Advantages Disadvantages
Strong/Administrative .Clear leader with recognized .Candidates would be limited
Mayor (no City authority sets the City policy to City residents & may not
Manager) vision & moves policy forward not have professional
. Clear point of contact for qualifications
constituent concerns . City Manager position
. City resident elected by would be eliminated
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City’s voters .Governance could be seen
. Spokesperson for the City as partisan or overly political
Including representing its . Veto power could cause
Interests in Montpelier conflicts with Council or
and with the Federal override Council’s decisions
delegation . Fulltime job could be a
. Ceremonial head of City barrier to entry for potential
. Hires own staff which candidates
encourages innovation . Citywide campaign could be
. Mayoral system easy for expensive, another barrier
citizens to understand for candidates
. Campaign donations may
raise suspicion of favoritism
in later policy decisions
. Campaign could encourage
or allow endorsement by City
employee groups, which
could conflict with City policy
. Hires own staff, which could
be done for reasons other
than professional ability
. Could become entrenched
as an incumbent, difficult to
vote out
City Manager (no . Selected based on . Potentially not connected
Mayor) professional qualifications, to community
Appointed such as expertise, . Has unelected authority and
Professional experience may not respect Council’s
.Neutral, non-political role as policymaker or
decision maker implement the Council’s
.Provides continuity to City policies
operations . May use the position to try
. Runs the day-to-day to manipulate and control
operations of City so the Council and may form
elected officials can focus on “favorites” with Councilors
policy matters . City Manager system
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. Stays current on managerial difficult for citizens to
& financial issues through understand
continual education and . Council’s ability to remove
professional development manager cold incur expense
. Hires & fires professional due to employment contract
Staff & protects them from
political influence
. Available for citizens’ concerns
. Council can remove manager for
poor performance
Weak/Policy . Clear recognized leader of City . Potential for conflicts
Mayor (with . Clear point of contact for between Policy Mayor and
City Manager constituent concerns Council; Council may not
. City resident elected by City’s support Policy Mayor
Elected voters . Position has little statutory
. Spokesperson and ceremonial power
head of City . Mayor may not accept
. Can help bring consensus to limited role & may try to act
Council as active Chair as Administrative Mayor
. Supported by a professional . Citywide campaign could be
City Manager & can provide expensive; barrier for many
Support & guidance to Manager candidates
. Can be a point in time position . City Manager may have less
So more potential candidates may authority to act for City
be able and willing to run . May not always be available
. Mayoral position easy for for citizen concerns if part-
citizens to understand time position
. Nature of position may be
confusing to citizens
Council Chair . Works to build consensus, . Not elected as Chair by
(with City Manager) encourages collaboration, and City residents
Elected as Councilor, listens to all Councilors . Unclear who is spokes-
Chosen by fellow . May be more of a “team person for the City
Councilors to be Chair spirit” than a system with a . Less of a clear point of
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separate Mayor contact for residents than
. City resident elected by City than with a Mayor
voters . Nature of the roll may be
. Can be replaced every year by confusing to voters
other Councilors . Chair may lack sufficient
. Provides many of the same political influence in
services as a Policy Mayor lobbying, obtaining grants,
. Supported by a professional etc.
City Manager . Potential for Chair conflict
. Can provide support and with City Manager
guidance to Manager
Council Composition
5 City Councilors:
. Easier to find candidates to serve . May represent fewer
. Easier to hold more efficient perspectives
meetings, have cooperation & . Too much work for each
team building Councilor
. Easier to arrange meetings . More difficult to get a
that all Councilors can attend quorum
. Easier communication with . Takes only 3 Councilors
with City Manager & residents to dismiss City Manager
. If ward-based, voting logistics
are simpler if just one Councilor
per ward
. Less expense for City to pay fewer
stipends
More than 5 . More perspectives will be . More difficult to reach
Councilors represented consensus; more voices
. May mean greater expertise, could lead to more conflict
different skill sets in Council or factions
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. Spreads out the work of the . Deliberations could get
Council to more people and may bogged down with more
allow for extra activities such as Councilors, possibly leading
sub-committees to less efficient meetings
. Councilors will be able to . Difficult to find more
miss meetings or recuse candidates to run
themselves when necessary, and . Adding subcommittees
there will still be a quorum could take up more of
Councilors’ time & create
additional staff work
. More expensive for City to
pay more stipends and
increase staff support and
time commitment
Elected at Large . All Councilors have a Citywide . May not be representative
perspective of the entire City due to
. Residents from any ward inequitable geographic
can reach out to any Councilor representation
for assistance . Difficult for Councilors to
. Voting logistics for at-large represent all residents of the
(Citywide) elections are simpler City rather than just those in
for residents and City Clerk’s their ward
Office . Running for City-wide office
may be expensive and time-
consuming
Elected by Ward . Residents more engaged with . Potential to lose City-wide
their Councilor at a neighborhood perspective, and to be re-
level elected, Councilors may have
. Wards could correspond to to prioritize their own ward
existing legislative districts with . May be difficult to find a
simpler voting logistics, if only 5 a candidate in each ward
Councilors . Smaller candidate pool may
. Familiar with localized issues lead to more candidates
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. More affordable & less time- . running unopposed, so
consuming for candidates to possibly less voter choice
campaign in their ward . Some potential candidates
. Smaller candidate pool may (including current Councilors
encourage more candidates may not be able to serve
. Confusing to voters to have
one Councilor per ward and
more at large, if over 5
Councilors
. If Legislative boundaries
determine wards, the
Legislature (not the City)
determines the wards;
redistricting every 10 years
could cause confusion
South Burlington
School Board . Easier to find 5 candidates to . May represent fewer
5 Directors serve perspectives
. Easier to hold more efficient . Members often work on
meetings, have cooperation & multiple committees and
team building bargaining groups which
. Easier to arrange meetings with creates a high work load
that all Directors can attend . More difficult to get a
. Easier to communicate with the quorum
Superintendent and residents . Takes on 3 Directors to
. If ward-based, voting logistics dismiss the Superintendent
are simpler if just one Director
per ward
. Less expensive for City to pay
fewer stipends
School Board
More than 5 . More perspectives will be . More difficult to reach
Directors represented consensus; more voices
. May mean greater expertise, could lead to more conflict
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different sets on School Board or factions
. Spreads out the work of the . Deliberations could get
Directors to more people and bogged down with more
may allow for extra activities such Directors, possibly leading
as more subcommittees to less efficient meetings
. Directors will be able to miss . Difficult to find more
meetings or recuse themselves candidates to run
when necessary and there will . More subcommittees could
still be a quorum take up more to Directors’
. More contacts for the public & time and create additional
more outreach to the community staff work.
. More expensive for School
District to pay more stipends
and increase staff support &
time commitment
Mr. Engels moved to accept the listing of advantage and disadvantages of each of the
categories as discussed. Ms. Kinville seconded. Motion passed with all present voting in favor.
6. Discuss and finalize the Committee’s community outreach process:
Ms. Baker provided some suggestions for public engagement. She asked if members wanted to
have a quick public survey and whether they wanted the Committee as a whole to do the public
engagement.
Mr. Taylor suggested 3 meetings with the Committee in 3 different locations, one of which
could be with the School Board. Ms. Baker said the City has found it beneficial to have a survey
running during the public meeting process.
Mr. Taylor suggested having the outreach in April. He also would like to see the
“advantages/disadvantages chart in The Other Paper. Mr. Taylor and Ms. Baker will be meeting
with The Other Paper this week. Mr. Taylor agreed to meet with the new School Board Chair.
Ms. Baker said it is important to have someone ask for time on a School Board agenda. She and
Mr. Taylor will go when invited.
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Suggestions for meetings with public groups included the Rotary, PTO SBBA and Policy
Committee Chairs.
Mr. Taylor would like a returned survey to be signed or at least have a street of residence so
they can be certain responders are city residents.
Members agreed to a survey and asked that it include the question: “Have you reviewed the
Pros and Cons document.”
7. Other Business:
Ms. Baker said she cannot be present at the next scheduled Committee meeting (12 April).
Members agreed to leave it on the schedule for now.
As there was no further business to come before the Committee, Ms. Lalonde moved to
adjourn. Mr. Engels seconded. Motion passed unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 5:53
p.m.