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Marla Keene
From:Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>
Sent:Monday, August 29, 2022 4:16 PM
To:Marla Keene
Cc:Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net); Deb Sherman; Marcus Parkkonen; Stephanie
Wyman; Peter Smiar
Subject:RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hi Marla,
To follow up on our phone call, here is some additional detail about the green roof trays and associated plant material for
Phase 1.
The planting trays will have a combination of ornamental grasses with medium and low height perennials, creating a
layered effect of the landscaping. The design goal is to create a central spine of the taller ornamental grasses as the main
structure of the space with the medium and lower plant material adding color and season interest, as well as pollinator
forage. This garden space will be viewed by from two sides, the unit terraces and the public access/sitting area. The taller
ornamental grasses will help define the space creating an outdoor room, while adding some visual buffer for private
terraces and public space.
The green roof image below from Live Roof is similar to what we will be achieving with this project. The ornamental
grasses shown are what we will be using for this project, which are the Calamagrostis x acutiflora ‘Karl Forester’.
If you have any additional questions, please let us know.
Thanks,
Michael
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Michael Willard, PLA, LEED AP
Director of Landscape Architecture – VT
P 802.497.6190 M 802.999.6506
www.vhb.com
From: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 3:27 PM
To: Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Deb Sherman
<DebSherman@larkinrealty.net>; Marcus Parkkonen <Marcus@bmaworld.com>; Stephanie Wyman
<swyman@VHB.com>; Peter Smiar <PSmiar@VHB.com>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hey Mike, can you please give me a call?
Thanks,
Marla Keene, PE
Development Review Planner
City of South Burlington
(802) 846-4106
From: Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 12:16 PM
To: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Deb Sherman
<DebSherman@larkinrealty.net>; Marcus Parkkonen <Marcus@bmaworld.com>; Stephanie Wyman
<swyman@VHB.com>; Peter Smiar <PSmiar@VHB.com>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hi Marla,
Attached is an updated cost estimate that breaks down the associated costs between the green roof elements; plant
material vs. pedestal pavers.
Please let us know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks,
Michael
Michael Willard, PLA, LEED AP
Director of Landscape Architecture – VT
P 802.497.6190 M 802.999.6506
www.vhb.com
From: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 9:12 AM
To: Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Deb Sherman
<DebSherman@larkinrealty.net>; Marcus Parkkonen <Marcus@bmaworld.com>; Stephanie Wyman
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<swyman@VHB.com>; Peter Smiar <PSmiar@VHB.com>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hi Mike, that is fine, but you had listed the $90k as consisting of “roof top pavers and pedestal system, planting trays,
and specific green roof waterproofing, drainage, protection matting, etc.” in the below thread, which does not list
plants, so I’m a little confused. In order to count plantings on the roof, we’ll need a plan that shows the proposed roof
layout plan and your worksheet that shows the breakdown of the $90K. Hopefully this is simply sending over something
you already have. Thanks!
Marla Keene, PE
Development Review Planner
City of South Burlington
(802) 846-4106
From: Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 9:05 AM
To: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Deb Sherman
<DebSherman@larkinrealty.net>; Marcus Parkkonen <Marcus@bmaworld.com>; Stephanie Wyman
<swyman@VHB.com>; Peter Smiar <PSmiar@VHB.com>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hi Marla,
For the Phase 2A landscape budget, we currently list the Green Roof or “Sun Terrace” as a landscape feature with the
estimate of $90k, so that dollar value is lumped in as a non-landscaping; however, the green roof component is about half
landscaping/plant material. Are we able to break this down and separate out the cost of the pedestal pavers vs. the
landscaping?
Thanks,
Michael
Michael Willard, PLA, LEED AP
Director of Landscape Architecture – VT
P 802.497.6190 M 802.999.6506
www.vhb.com
From: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 12:13 PM
To: Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Deb Sherman
<DebSherman@larkinrealty.net>; Marcus Parkkonen <Marcus@bmaworld.com>; Stephanie Wyman
<swyman@VHB.com>; Peter Smiar <PSmiar@VHB.com>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hey Mike, thanks for this. I’m working on incorporating your responses. One outstanding issue, the rest are all set, just
need to finish writing them up.
I’m having trouble getting to 20% of the required minimum landscaping budget being applied towards plantings for
Phase 2A. By my math, the required expenditure for Phase 2A is $175,000. 20% must be in plants, or $35,000. I’m
calculating only $30,065 in plants. Can you look into this?
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Sincerely,
Marla Keene, PE
Development Review Planner
City of South Burlington
(802) 846-4106
From: Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:57 PM
To: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Deb Sherman
<DebSherman@larkinrealty.net>; Marcus Parkkonen <Marcus@bmaworld.com>; Stephanie Wyman
<swyman@VHB.com>; Peter Smiar <PSmiar@VHB.com>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hi Marla,
See comments below, noted in response to your emails dated 8/1/22 and 8/5/22.
Attached are:
VHB’s revised drawings reflecting updates to the project plans per your recent SoBu staff comments.
Updated landscape budget spreadsheets that exclude the landscaping in the parking lot islands.
Please let us know if you have any questions.
Thank you,
Michael
Michael Willard, PLA, LEED AP
Director of Landscape Architecture – VT
P 802.497.6190 M 802.999.6506
www.vhb.com
From: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 3:02 PM
To: Peter Smiar <PSmiar@VHB.com>; Stephanie Wyman <swyman@VHB.com>; Marcus Parkkonen
<Marcus@bmaworld.com>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>; Deb
Sherman <DebSherman@larkinrealty.net>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hey Peter, thanks for catching me up on where things stand just now.
As mentioned, I spent some time today incorporating the latest LDR into our review, which I had inadvertently not done
before now. It has come to our attention that LDR 13.04B(4)(e) prohibits required parking lot landscaping from being
counted as contributing towards the required minimum landscape value in the FBC. I tried to do this calculation myself,
but it quickly became overwhelming. In addition to the questions on landscaping below, please provide a computation
of the value of the required parking lot landscaping, which consists of 25 shade trees (your computation on Sheet L4.03
includes two shade trees that are in phase 3, but since they are not planned to be installed until well after the parking,
they should not be counted as part of Phase 2) these (2) shade trees were removed from L4.03 and the plantings in the
royal blue areas on Sheet L4.03, which we will subtract from the required budget. See attached updated landscape
budget spreadsheets that do not include the plant material in the parking lot landscape islands.
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Sincerely,
Marla Keene, PE
Development Review Planner
City of South Burlington
(802) 846-4106
From: Peter Smiar <PSmiar@VHB.com>
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 7:07 PM
To: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Stephanie Wyman <swyman@VHB.com>; Marcus Parkkonen
<Marcus@bmaworld.com>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>; Deb
Sherman <DebSherman@larkinrealty.net>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Thanks Marla! I will defer to Joe and Marcus to schedule a call with you for item 3 as you request, and in the meantime,
VHB will look into the other site/LA items you note below
Peter
Peter Smiar, PE
Director of Land Development, Vermont
Licensed in VT, ME
P 802.497.6165
www.vhb.com
From: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 1:10 PM
To: Stephanie Wyman <swyman@VHB.com>; Marcus Parkkonen <Marcus@bmaworld.com>; Peter Smiar
<PSmiar@VHB.com>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>; Deb
Sherman <DebSherman@larkinrealty.net>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hi folks, here’s an update.
Marla Keene, PE
Development Review Planner
City of South Burlington
(802) 846-4106
From: Stephanie Wyman <swyman@VHB.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 4:58 PM
To: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Marcus Parkkonen <Marcus@bmaworld.com>; Peter Smiar
<PSmiar@VHB.com>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>; Deb
Sherman <DebSherman@larkinrealty.net>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
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Hi Marla,
Please see link below to download the revised plans and additional application materials. Also below are team responses
in red to your questions/comments.
Sheets C3.01, C4.01, C6.01 were all revised to include a new DMH-1B based on field investigation with CWD.
Additionally, there has been an upsize to subsurface infiltration system #2 for future capacity that may be utilized at a
future time, but is not required for the current application. A portion of the 8” waterline extending to the existing
Holiday Inn building on the west side which has been installed is now being depicted as existing.
Sheets L4.00, L4.01, and L4.02 were revised to include screening of the gas meters on the Mixed-Use building
Sheet L4.03 was revised to count the Sun Terrace as 3,000 SF maximum for the open space calculation
20220721-1068 Williston Rd
1. BES: A minimum of 85% of all required upper story glazing shall be transparent. Please provide computation.
Sheet AP-203 has the transparent glazing calcs. OK
2. 8.06F(1)(a) Building Stories: Please provide the area of the second story for recordkeeping purposes. We
recognize this criteria as met because the second story is completely covered by a third and fourth story. The
second floor calculations do not count the open to below area at the 2 story tall Retail space along the south
façade so the second floor area is 18,136 sf (Second Floor + Mezzanine)
3. 8.06F(2) Combined Stories: we’re having trouble fitting the second story into the “mezzanine” box because of
the presence of units 203 and 207. If the front half of the building, including the apartment lobbies and the two
units, is considered a second story, the front half of the building has six stories. Can you explain why you
thought it met the five story maximum? We are counting the portion of the second floor below the six story
portion as mezzanine since it is less than 5,000sf and less than 1/3 of the first floor area, I didn’t see any
verbiage in the regulations excluding units from a mezzanine We’d like to schedule a time to talk w/ Joe &
Marcus. Some available times this week are tomorrow or Wednesday after 2PM.
4. 8.06G(1) Conceal Rooftop Devices: there appears to be a new rooftop mechanical equipment on the sloped
portion of the roof. How does this feature meet the requirement to conceal rooftop devices (8.06G(1), page
100)? There was a place holder elevator vent on the sloped roof but we confirmed that elevators in VT do not
need to be vented, so that has been eliminated. We will include a condition to update the plans.
5. 8.06G(4) Utility features. It does not appear gas service is proposed to be screened. Please demonstrate how it
will be shielded from view of the street. We have added shrubs to screen the gas service on the building on the
multi-family building. The proposed screening is off-site and not in an area covered by a permanent easement. If
you’d like to provide the screening as proposed we’d have to involve the other property. Our suggestion is to find
a way to screen it on the building. Screening does not have to be landscaping.
6. 8.08 Open Space: It appears your green roof best fits into the category of “sun terrace.” Acknowledging that
our LDR is overly prescriptive, there is the requirement for one seat for every 50 ft of sun terrace, up to the
maximum of 3,000 sf. We’d welcome the use of features other than “seats” as seating. Please demonstrate
how this is met. We are interpreting the open space requirement to be one seating space for 50-sf of “terrace
area”, with the terrace portion being the physical hardscape area with the pedestal paver system vs. including the
softscape/green area of the green roof. The paver area of the terrace is 1,375sf which would require the project to
provide seating for 28 people. Currently we are proposing eight 6-ft benches. Each bench can seat 4 people,
result is we are providing seating for 32 people, exceeding the code requirement. We have not found evidence
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that a 6-ft bench can seat 4 people. Unless you have something specific in mind that you can demonstrate seats
4, we estimate that a 6-ft bench can seat 3 people and therefore you are shy of the requirement by 4 people. For
the benches on the green roof, we will change the benches from 6-foot to 8-foot, which would
accommodate 4 people per bench with ease.
7. 14.07D Landscaping: Please provide a schedule of landscaping costs and building costs for Phase 2A and Phase
2A & 2B together. If its easier, you’re welcome to provide Phase 2A and 2B as separate schedules. See attached
revised landscape budget. I need some clarification on what is included in the line item “green roof
$90,000.” The construction estimate of $90,000 includes the cost of: roof top pavers and pedestal system,
planting trays, and specific green roof waterproofing, drainage, protection matting, etc.
8. 14.07D Shade Trees: There are two existing plants at the north side of the holiday inn that it looks like you’re
retaining. What size and kind of tree are they? If they’re not shade trees, are they worth saving or would it be
better to replace them with shade trees? The two existing trees on the north side of the Holiday are not being
retained. They are represented with a grey background of the existing conditions OK
9. 13.07 Exterior Lighting: Fixture SACL with R4 optics is new. Please provide cut sheet. Please provide a full lighting
plan so the fixtures can be counted for recordkeeping purposes. This is the exact same light fixture as “Fixture A”,
with the exception is had a house side shield installed to limit any potential light trespass off the parcel. See
lighting cut sheets. OK
10. 13.04 Bicycle Parking: Please provide a plan showing how long term bicycle parking is met. See Sheet SD-101,
Schematic first and second floor plans for Bicycle Parking, this shows three bike rooms with room for 88
bikes. OK
Let us know if you have any other questions or need anything else.
Have a great weekend,
Stephanie
Stephanie Wyman, PE (She,Her)
Civil Engineer
Licensed in ME, VT
P 802.497.6196
www.vhb.com
From: Stephanie Wyman <SWyman@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 2:35 PM
To: Marcus Parkkonen <Marcus@bmaworld.com>; Peter Smiar <PSmiar@VHB.com>; Stephanie Wyman
<swyman@VHB.com>
Cc: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net)
<JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>
Subject: Re: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Thank you - Adding my VHB email address to the chain.
From: Marcus Parkkonen <Marcus@bmaworld.com>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 7:31 AM
To: Peter Smiar <PSmiar@vhb.com>
Cc: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Stephanie Wyman <SWyman@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Joe Larkin
(JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Michael Willard <mwillard@vhb.com>
Subject: RE: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
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In regards to the bicycle parking SD-101 shows three Bike Rooms with room for 88 bikes.
From: Marcus Parkkonen
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2022 5:35 PM
To: Peter Smiar <PSmiar@vhb.com>
Cc: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Stephanie Wyman <SWyman@southburlingtonvt.gov>; Joe Larkin
(JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Michael Willard <mwillard@vhb.com>
Subject: Re: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hi Marla I replied on 6/7. I copied and pasted my reply below. I will review and reply to the new questions when I get
back to the office
Hi Marla
See response below it may be easier to jump on a call, I am available later this afternoon or tomorrow around 1
My second floor calculations does not count the open to below area at the 2 story tall Retail space along the south
façade so the 18,000sf is the correct number.
In regards to the six stories, I was counting the portion of the second floor below the six story portion as mezzanine
since it is less than 5,000sf and less than 1/3 of the first floor area, I didn’t see any verbiage excluding units from a
mezzanine?
I had a place holder elevator vent on the sloped roof but I confirmed that elevators in VT do not need to be vented, so
that has been eliminated.
Sheet AP-203 has the transparent glazing calcs.
Marcus Parkkonen
On Jul 8, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Peter Smiar <PSmiar@vhb.com> wrote:
Thank you Marla!
Peter Smiar, PE
Director of Land Development, Vermont
Licensed in VT, ME
P 802.497.6165
www.vhb.com
From: Marla Keene <mkeene@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 4:46 PM
To: Peter Smiar <PSmiar@VHB.com>; Stephanie Wyman <SWyman@southburlingtonvt.gov>
Cc: Joe Larkin (JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net) <JoeLarkin@larkinrealty.net>; Marcus@bmaworld.com;
Michael Willard <mwillard@VHB.com>
Subject: [External] SP-22-031 1068 Williston Rd - neighborhood meeting
Hi Peter,
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I know you said you’re out this week, so I’m copying the team. We’ve determined this application will
not be required to have a neighborhood meeting. I’ve reviewed everything EXCEPT inclusionary housing
and stormwater. I’ll try to knock that out towards the end of next week.
I sent Marcus some questions on 6/7 and I am not seeing a reply in my inbox. I believe we spoke on the
phone. If you’ve already sent a reply, my apologies, can you please resend? Otherwise, the questions
are embedded herein so it’s all in one place.
1. BES: A minimum of 85% of all required upper story glazing shall be transparent. Please provide
computation.
2. 8.06F(1)(a) Building Stories: Please provide the area of the second story for recordkeeping
purposes. We recognize this criteria as met because the second story is completely covered by
a third and fourth story.
3. 8.06F(2) Combined Stories: we’re having trouble fitting the second story into the “mezzanine”
box because of the presence of units 203 and 207. If the front half of the building, including the
apartment lobbies and the two units, is considered a second story, the front half of the building
has six stories. Can you explain why you thought it met the five story maximum?
4. 8.06G(1) Conceal Rooftop Devices: there appears to be a new rooftop mechanical equipment
on the sloped portion of the roof. How does this feature meet the requirement to conceal
rooftop devices (8.06G(1), page 100)?
5. 8.06G(4) Utility features. It does not appear gas service is proposed to be screened. Please
demonstrate how it will be shielded from view of the street.
6. 8.08 Open Space: It appears your green roof best fits into the category of “sun
terrace.” Acknowledging that our LDR is overly prescriptive, there is the requirement for one
seat for every 50 ft of sun terrace, up to the maximum of 3,000 sf. We’d welcome the use of
features other than “seats” as seating. Please demonstrate how this is met.
7. 14.07D Landscaping: Please provide a schedule of landscaping costs and building costs for
Phase 2A and Phase 2A & 2B together. If its easier, you’re welcome to provide Phase 2A and 2B
as separate schedules.
8. 14.07D Shade Trees: There are two existing plants at the north side of the holiday inn that it
looks like you’re retaining. What size and kind of tree are they? If they’re not shade trees, are
they worth saving or would it be better to replace them with shade trees?
9. 13.07 Exterior Lighting: Fixture SACL with R4 optics is new. Please provide cut sheet. Please
provide a full lighting plan so the fixtures can be counted for recordkeeping purposes.
10. 13.04 Bicycle Parking: Please provide a plan showing how long term bicycle parking is met.
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Marla Keene, PE
Development Review Planner
City of South Burlington
180 Market Street
South Burlington, VT 05403
(802) 846-4106
www.southburlingtonvt.gov
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