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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Bicycle & Pedestrian Committee - 09/08/2021 South Burlington Bike & Pedestrian Committee APPROVED Regular Meeting Minutes Wednesday, September 8, 2021 @ 5:30 p.m. City Hall Room 201 Committee Attendees: Havaleh Gagne (Chair), Bob Britt (Vice-Chair), Nic Anderson (Clerk), Amanda Holland, Matty Larkspur, Cathy Frank, Shawn Goddard Absent: Donna Leban, Dana Farr Other Attendees: Ashley Parker (City Liaison) Public in Person: Kathy Alarie, Cecile Vien, Sally Ballin Remote: Scott Holmsted, Corey Mack, Andrew Gill, Evan Langfeldt, Loretta Marriott, Carolyn Orben 1. Welcome and directions on emergency evacuation procedures 2. Changes or additions to the agenda a. None 3. Comments from the public not related to the agenda a. Cecile asked if biking is allowed on sidewalks b. Kathy last week was almost hit twice at crosswalk just to west of City Hall. Curve is hard to see peds for drivers. Drivers going fast. Friend got injured the other night falling backwards to not getting hit. c. Matty would suggest a roundabout somewhere within the corridor to slow people. Easy for cars to go super-fast. d. Cecile – Cars go faster at night e. Kathy spoke at City Council meeting last night f. Bob – Can add to safety list g. Loretta Marriott – Concerned about Lou’s Crossing. See proposed road in same location as path on Official Map. Planning Commission know about it. Would like proposed road to be removed from City Map. On lots of plans and studies as well as interim zoning maps. Willing to help out brining attention to this. h. Bob – Asked if issue is getting rid of path when they put the road in. i. Nic – Bridge is pretty beat up and can’t imagine there wouldn’t be a new recreation path beside the road. j. Havaleh – Based on 2016 priorities there is a heavy leaning to sustainability and walkability. k. Loretta – It is also a wetland. Concern is both impact to rec path and wetlands. l. Havaleh – Will follow and make sure we are aware of any future plans. m. Ashley – Even replacement would need consideration of wetlands for any facility. n. Shawn – Resigning. No longer a South Burlington resident. Term goes through end of next term. Asked if needing to send letter. Will send letter to Jesse. Sad to leave group. o. Bob – Shawn manages the striping workbook. Who wants to take on that. p. Shawn – Can send out info and when someone is interested can teach them. About half way through. Happy to help Havaleh learn about where things are located in Google Drive. q. Ashley working on GoToMeeting work r. Amanda – When we get comments about Market St we should mention that it is not fully built out. Shawn thinks crosswalks should be raised or different color. Nic wants to be clear that we need to be carefully assessing which crosswalks on Market St should have additional treatment because there are a lot of crosswalks and don’t want that to snowball. 4. Consideration of minutes from the August 2021 meeting a. Motion by Havaleh to approve b. Seconded by Kathy c. Vote: Unanimously approved. 5. Review & Discuss Preliminary Plan for the Multi-family lots in Hillside (Phase 1) –O’Brien Development Team - Andrew Gill, Evan Langfeldt, Corey Mack, Carolyn Orben, Scott Holmsted a. Hillside neighborhood currently under construction. b. Six building lots with buildings proposed in this area. Proposing first project now under preliminary plat. Final plat on 2 of 6. Proposing sidewalks and roads under this first phase. 390-420 dwelling units. c. Detailed five streetscape goals. Came up with plan that achieves all those goals. d. Corey Mack – When reviewing site plans there were a couple of things that seemed like conflict points. Through route potential conflicts and driveway conflict potential. Change to materials would be helpful to provide visual contrast. Visual cues would help make safer environment. Also need space between parked cars and users of path to allow unloading of items. Noted concepts with 10ft path or 8ft path with buffer. Thinks on street parking provides multi use component of street. Street with is set right now. Good idea to have on street bike facilities but does not have full assessment or know if its desired. Other texture potential is alternating bands of colored concrete to provide context for users that it is a shared use path. Maximizing safety. e. Andrew detailed overall site plan. Rec path from 2016 plan shown going up to site from Kennedy. f. Matty asked what traffic calming measures are within 4 way intersection g. Andrew – Intersection has brick pavers h. Carolyn – Brick paver crosswalks with scored concrete center. Flush granite curbs. Tree grates and 3ft wide curbing diff color than sidewalks. Different scoring patterns in concrete areas. Lots of street trees. Entry wall at entry off Kennedy Drive i. Matty – Asked if there are speed control measures and calming. j. Nic – Full stop sign intersection so at least the middle will stop traffic. k. Andrew – Narrow road and parallel parking will help slow people down. Current streets at Hillside are narrow too and makes sure people have to pay attention. l. Evan – Thinks Market St is wider which makes the boulevard feel and faster traffic. m. Kathy wonders if we need traffic calming for E-bikes on the bike/ped facilities. n. Corey – this was the exact reason he was brought into the project. Having the concrete scoring and different colors were intending to calm bicycle traffic. Very different traffic type to Market St and users. o. Andrew - Activation of intersection will help slow down bike traffic. DRB noted that connectivity of the rec path was important. Not an area you will be speeding through on a bike. By having a lively intersection and plazas etc. the traffic would be slowed down. p. Evan – Just north of this will be busy commercial area and this will be heavy residential density. q. Bob asked about width and location of path on Two Brothers Dr r. Andrew detailed. Decided on pavement with regular crosswalks on s. Nic – Should have stop signs and stop bars at driveways. Would also like to see concrete sidewalks go through continuously. t. Corey – Can look into stop bars. u. Matty – Noted that coming down Two Brothers could have fast down hill traffic. Would like to see stop bar be on the inside of the crossing. Radius seems wide. Would strongly encourage much smaller radius. v. Havaleh – What is expected from the board? w. Andrew – Can send boards 5 goals and would like to have committee’s approval. x. Nic – I like the 3ft buffer for snow loading areas. y. Havaleh – I think that if there are good slow speeds then E-bikes will use roads. z. Matty – Only concern is radius but is happy either way. aa. Corey – Fire department will have comments. bb. Amanda – Motion to endorse plan as presented with small changes as shown. cc. Seconded by Matty dd. All in favor 6. Updates from the City – A. Parker a. Ashley - Additional update not in packet – Justin Rabidoux submitted letter of resignation at City Council meeting. Leaving end of the year. Significant loss and doesn’t know the plan yet for a replacement. b. Read updates from packet c. Cathy – An incredible amount of work going on. When she started 9 years ago there weren’t any plans in the pipeline 7. New City-wide Policy Priorities & Strategies Process a. Discuss the Bike/Ped Work Plan and How it Fits this new Process b. Ashley – Should be working on Annual Report. This work plan process is important to prioritize all the work we want to do and send to City Council. Needs to be done now, for the coming year c. Shawn – Last year we submitted work plan in September. d. Ashley – We did annual report and did not manage a work plan because we weren’t meeting. Detailed schedule in packet. Committee needs to send information to Ashley e. Amanda – This should be the higher level, not the exact projects. f. Ashley – This should also deal with big things like hiring a transportation planner. g. Bob – Ashley is doing a ton of other things and we need to have contractors do a lot of the work. h. Ashley – Justin has said that there are no contractors that do this stuff in the state. There are limited resources and limited employees. Need to identify important things and make a shared approach to get there. Doesn’t have to be super formal but need bullet points to put in the spreadsheet i. Amanda – Asked if others want to work with her on this. j. Ashley – May need to reach out to Dana. k. Havaleh – Could be a good thing for Matty to get involved. l. Amanda will connect with Matty, Havaleh and Dana m. Nic recommends staffing being huge. Need a transportation planner position. And would like to plant the seed for a Bike Walk Master Plan in FY23 n. Motion by Cathy to have group come up with plans and send to Ashley directly. o. Seconded by Shawn p. Vote: Unanimously approved. 8. CIP Updates & Committee Scoping/Project Priorities a. Havaleh – Goal is to approve priorities and document b. Bob – Detailed/read through notes in packet. c. Ashley – Should keep Allen Road on the CIP yet. Needs a buffer. Will keep it on there but have $0 allocated to show its done. d. Bob – Should keep RRFB’s on because on. e. Ashley concerned about the number of new projects on the list compared to how much is already on the CIP f. Bob – Scoping suggestions are to bundle crosswalks. g. Ashley – Not so concerned about scoping studies right now. Need to CIP. h. Amanda – Motion to provide the recommendations and spreadsheet from the packet for the CIP to staff. i. Nic – With the updates discussed j. Ashley – Will discuss with staff and make changes as they see fit. k. Second by Cathy l. Vote: Approved unanimously 9. Review Draft Transportation Impact Fee Project List a. Bob gave synopsis. Outstanding questions. Suggested a lot of projects which may not be our priorities. Concerns with funding pieces. Should funds come from roads or TIF funds. Sent email to Paul Connor to ask questions (in packet) b. Nic noted Swift St Extension should be its own new line item in spreadsheet. c. Motion by Shawn to approve bobs suggestions and move them forward. d. Seconded by Matty e. Vote: All in favor 10. Nominate one member to serve on the Council’s Climate Action Task Force a. Donna mentioned she was interested last meeting b. Matty would like to do it c. Nic asked when it was needed by d. Cathy – Matty is here and Donna has been involved in a lot of other things already. e. Matty nominated by Havaleh f. Seconded by Nic g. Vote: All in favor 11. Spear Street Project Phase 1 Recommendation a. Havaleh – Summarized. Ultimately, we need to decide which side of the road it needs to be on. b. Shawn asked if there are any issues on the east side of the road? c. Amanda – Don’t want to give a recommendation. If you look at the lines they are proposing would actually shift the road and narrowing the lanes. Would like to consultant to give us their recommendations based on safety, ADA and connecting to other facilities. Would not want to say “put it here” if it cannot work. Supports recommendation of professionals. Hard to see the plans but it looks like that. d. Shawn would like to ask them to clarify what they are proposing. e. Ashley – Doesn’t know if they looked at shifting the lanes and if that might make it easier. f. Amanda – Thinks it would be just a small shifting. Drawings are hard to see. g. Ashley – Consultants mentioned that there may need to be some shoring up of the abutments. h. Cathy – Doesn’t think we have enough information to make a call. i. Amanda – Report doesn’t mention that but the drawings look different. j. Ashley – They would need a kickoff meeting and could ask then. k. Nic – I think the buffer space be maintained as its very important regardless. l. Should make official motion m. Motion by Amanda to recommend that consultant clarify possible shift of lanes and provide better recommendations based on comments above. n. Matty seconded o. Vote: All in favor 12. Confirmation: Next meeting Wednesday, October 13, 2021 @ 5:30pm a. Bob will be away b. Need to work out meeting structure of hybrid versus in person. Meeting room plays a big role in that. 13. Matty moved to adjourn. Nic seconded. Adjourned 8:10.