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Special Meeting Thursday, September 23, 2021
City Hall, 180 Market Street, Auditorium
7:00 pm
The Planning Commission will attend this meeting in person. Members of the public may attend in
person or digitally via GoToMeeting. Participation Options:
In person: South Burlington City Hall Room 301, 180 Market Street
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AGENDA:
1. *Agenda: Additions, deletions or changes in order of agenda items (7:00 pm)
2. Open to the public for items not related to the agenda (7:02 pm)
3. Announcements and staff report (7:05 pm)
4. *Continue review of draft amendments to the Land Development Regulations (7:20 pm)
The Planning Commission will be reviewing the complete Land Development Regulations at this and
upcoming meetings. Topics may cover all aspects of the Regulations as they relate to the work on Master
Plans, Subdivisions, Planned Unit Developments, Environmental Protection Standards, and others. Not all
topics below will be addressed at this meeting.
5. *Meeting Minutes: August 18, August 24, August 31, 2021
6. Other Business:
a. Review Project Schedule
b. *Update on Spear Street Solar, LLC
7. Adjourn
Respectfully submitted,
Paul Conner, AICP,
Director of Planning & Zoning
* item has attachments
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MEMORANDUM
TO: South Burlington Planning Commission
FROM: Paul Conner, Director of Planning & Zoning
SUBJECT: Planning Commission Meeting Memo
DATE: September 23, 2021 Planning Commission Special meeting
1. *Agenda: Additions, deletions or changes in order of agenda items (7:00 pm)
2. Open to the public for items not related to the agenda (7:02 pm)
3. Announcements and staff report (7:05 pm)
4. *Continue review of draft amendments to the Land Development Regulations (7:20 pm)
Included with this week’s packet is a working draft of the Land Development Regulations. Staff has posted
two versions of the draft on the project website: a “clean” version (all changes “accepted”) and a “redline”
version showing each change from the current adopted LDRs. The redline version also includes various staff
notes to the Commission.
The draft posted initially (Sept 18th) includes everything EXCEPT the PUD chapters and the building types.
Staff & Sharon Murray are actively working on the updates to these based on Commission feedback.
https://cms6.revize.com/revize/southburlington/departments/planning_and_zoning/PUD_/_Master_Plan_P
roject.php
As these remaining pieces become available we will post them and notify the PC. We’re also verifying that
written Commissioner comments have been either included, voted on, or made available for Commissioners
to see if they remain outstanding
For the meeting on the 23rd, staff and Jessica have discussed the goal of having the “rest” of the LDRs
reviewed and, if possible, completed: that is, the accompanying regulations to the PUDs, but not the
“remainder” of the items you were discussing at the last meeting on 9/14.
We recognize that this puts the Commission a little “out of order”, but in terms of timing it was important to
have the rest of these reviewed in time to make edits. Also, two Commissioners will be absent on 9/23 and
the discussions on the applicability of PUD types, the handful of zoning changes (Hill Farm & adjacent, NRP
boundaries), and the text accompanying warrant a full Commission.
To help Commissioners navigate, please also find attached a quick 2-page summary of the various
amendments.
5. *Meeting Minutes: August 18, August 24, August 31, 2021
6. Other Business:
a. Review Project Schedule
b. *Update on Spear Street Solar, LLC
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7. Adjourn
LDR Working Amendment List 9/18/2021
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A B C D H I
Number Title Description LDR Section Overall status Drafting Status 9/23/21
LDR-21-01 Solar Ready Roofs Require solar ready rooks per CBES Appendix CA 3.15 PC approved for next round
8/31/21
Included in Draft
LDR-20-01 Environmental
Resource Standards
Update Natural Resource Standards, add Forest Blocks & Forest
Block Connectors; establish criteria for limited infrastructure
incursion
3.04; Article 12 PC completing review 9/2021 Included in Draft
LDR-20-02 Subdivision Standards Update and re-write of Subdivision Standards & procedures Article 15B PC reviewed fall 2020; minor
process changes.
Included in Draft
LDR-20-03 Master Plan Standards Update and re-write of Master Plan Standards Article 15A PC reviewed fall 2020; minor
process changes.
Included in Draft
LDR-20-04 Planned Unit
Developments
Update and re-write of PUD standards and applicability Article 15C Draft under development. PC
guidance on thresholds and
density approach 8/25
Included in Draft. Applicability
outside SEQ not finalized by PC.
Additional Edits may be required
following PC action
LDR-20-06 Open Space Types in
PUDs
Apply certain open space types to PUDs (& Subdivisions). Relates to
LDR-19-06
Appendix E Draft complete. Graphics to be
added
Included in draft
LDR-20-07 Street standards Replace Street standards from City Center FBC, Southeast
Quadrant, and General with citywide standards
Article 9, Article
11, Article 15
Draft complete. Graphics to be
added
Included in draft
LDR-20-08 Required setback on
Arterials & Collectors
Separates required setbacks from the subject of Planned Rights-of-
Way (previously required together). Eliminates larger setbacks (50')
from most streets and relies on underlying zoning. Clears conflict
with SEQ standards
3.06, Article 9 Staff draft complete Included in draft
LDR-20-09 Planned Rights-of-Way Provides greater clarification for how a planned ROW is to be
measured, and notes that "existing" ROW is a typical and not
necessarily the actual existing along all roadways
3.06 Staff draft complete Included in draft
LDR-20-10 Building envelopes for
SEQ-NRP
Establish building envelopes for any allowed development in the
SEQ-NRP district
Article 9 Staff draft ready Commission ok'd 10/2020. minor
revisions completed. Included in
draft
LDR-20-11 Site Plan Standards;
waivers
Updates general site plan standards to ensure that cross-
references to related standards are included. Revises waiver
standards to allow site plan review to stand "on its own" [currently
many properties use PUD as a tool to seek waivers from
standards], and to set clear waiver guidelines to the DRB;
establishes standards for when adjacent streetscape
improvements are needed.
14.04; 14.07 Ready for PC review. Includes
limited new allowances for
"modifications" that mirror the
limited allowances for subdivision
ok'd by PC (intended to give an
avenue for minor changes without
projects having to be a PUD)
Included in draft
LDR-20-15 R2 Zoning District Removed PUD density increase in R2 district and instead applies via
PUD standards
4.02 Conceptual applicability identified.
To be include in next round
Underlying zoning district
proposes to make general
references to allowed PUD types
and the densities associated with
each
LDR Working Amendment List 9/18/2021
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A B C D H I
LDR-21-01 Solar Ready Roofs Require solar ready rooks per CBES Appendix CA 3.15 PC approved for next round
8/31/21
Included in Draft
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LDR-20-16 R1 Zoning Districts Eliminates subdistricts of R1 (R1-PRD, R1-Lakeview, R1-Lakeshore),
removes PUD density increases, and instead applies, where
allowed, through PUDs. R1-PRD and R1-Lakeshore become R1 and
PUDs are addressed via PUD standards. R1-Lakeview is
consolidated into Lakeshore neighborhood.
4.01 Conceptual applicability identified.
To be include in next round
Underlying zoning district
proposes to make general
references to allowed PUD types
and the densities associated with
each
LDR-20-17 Residential Design Re-locates residential design standards from SEQ to apply citywide;
modifies garage scale to principal facade
3.16 PC approved 8/2021 Included in draft
LDR-20-18 Technical corrections LDR-20-18C 3.06F remove redundant text for structures requiring
setbacks; LDR-20-18D 3.06J clarify administrative/DRB review for
pre-existing lots; LDR-20-18G 3.07 Height of Accessory Structures;
LDR-20-18H 3.07 Height Standards update cross-references;
Throughout ; LDR-20-18J Article 6 & Section 13.11 relocate and
clarify when drive-throughs are permitted / prohibited [no policy
change proposed];
Throughout PC voted to ok for public hearing
8/31/21
Included in draft
LDR-20-21 Minor Amendments LDR-20-21D 3.06 corner visibility; LDR-20-21A 13.25 allows
retaining walls within 5' as a conditional use; LDR-20-21B 13.09
Eliminates requirement for special review of Bus Shelters; LDR-20-
21C 3.09 Allows RVs to be placed in the same locations as an
accessory structure on a property, plus the driveway; LDR-20-21E
3.07, 6.02, 6.03, 13.03 update FAA approach cone language; LDR-
20-21F 13.16 Earth products: clarify that stormwater system; LDR-
20-21G 13.18 Utility cabinets and similarmaintence is exempt; LDR-
20-=18E Buffer strips 3.06I
PC voted to ok for public hearing
8/31/21
Included in draft
LDR-20-22 Accessory Dwelling
Units; pre-existing
small lots; conditional
use review criteria for
3-4 unit buildings
Amendment LDRs to comply with S.237 3.05, 3.10, 14.10 PC can review and decide whether
to include
Included in draft
LDR-20-25 Accessory Structures Increases allowance for # of accessory structures on a lot and
references total SF of accessory structures as part of total lot
building coverage instead of 50% of ground floor area of principal
building; removes special reference to garage connection
3.10 PC can review and decide whether
to include
Included in draft
LDR-19-07 Solar canopies in
Parking areas
Would parking areas with solar canopies to have modified
landscaping requirements
13.06 PC voted to ok for public hearing
8/31/21
Included in draft
LDR-20-26 Table of Uses /
Dimensions Update
Update the Table of Uses & Dimensions to remove PUD references,
add uses enabled by TND
Appendix C Ready for PC review.Included in draft
LDR-20-28 Expand Inclusionary
Zoning Citywide
Expands the applicability of inclusionary zoning citywide to all new
development/ conservion to residential exceeding 12 dwelling
units.
Article 18,
Article 15C PUDs
PC voted to inclulde spring 2021 Included in draft
LDR Working Amendment List 9/18/2021
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A B C D H I
LDR-21-01 Solar Ready Roofs Require solar ready rooks per CBES Appendix CA 3.15 PC approved for next round
8/31/21
Included in Draft
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LDR-20-12 Expand Use of TDRs Expand applicability of TDRs citywide New Article 11 Conceptual applicability identified.
To be include in next round
Updated usage within SEQ in
current draft, plus test allowance
for lot coverage in Urban Design
overlay
LDR-21-03 Allow Limited
Neighborhood
Residential into larger
residential bldgs with
MP
Would expand the allowance for a small retail / serve use with a
Master Planned development. Currently only allowed as a stand-
alone building. Proposed to allow, in high density districts, with a
larger residential building
Article 14 PC to review Included in draft
LDR-20-04a Conservation PUD Type Conservation PUD type Article 15C Draft under development. PC
guidance on thresholds and
density approach 8/25
Drafting updates underway. To be
provided when complete
LDR-20-04b TND PUD Type (plus
infill version)
TND PUD Type Article 15C Draft under development. PC
guidance on thresholds and
density approach 8/25
Drafting updates underway. To be
provided when complete
LDR-20-05 Building Types Establish building types for applicability in PUDs (and possible
elsewhere later)
Appendix E Commission has reviewed; staff
draft 90%. Need to calibrate with
PUDs
Drafting updates underway. To be
provided when complete
SOUTH BURLINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
18 AUGUST 2021
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The South Burlington Planning Commission held a special meeting on Wednesday, 18 August 2021, at
7:00 p.m., at City Hall, 180 Market Street, and via Go to Meeting remote technology.
MEMBERS PRESENT: J. Louisos; T. Riehle, M. Ostby (acting Chair), M. Mittag, D. Macdonald, P. Engels
ALSO PRESENT: P. Conner, Director of Planning and Zoning; S. Murray, Consultant; J. Nick, S. Dooley, C.
Trombly
1. Agenda: Additions, deletions or changes in order of agenda items:
No changes were made to the agenda.
2. Open to the public for items not related to the Agenda:
Mr. Nick said it would help to know the Commission’s next steps
Ms. Ostby said that this meeting would focus on Conservation PUDs and how things link with
subdivisions and master planning. Mr. Conner added that at the next meeting he will have a master list
of scheduling which he can send to Mr. Nick. Mr. Macdonald asked when they are going to go back and
finish Chapters 10 and 12. Mr. Conner said the meeting after next.
3. Planning Commissioner announcements and staff report:
Ms. Louisos noted that she had mailed the letter to the solar consultant after the City Attorney looked it
over.
Mr. Conner: Last night, the City Council established a Climate Action Task Force. They will be looking
for a Planning Commission member to serve. The Task Force will be developing a plan and will be asking
for input from various committees. This is a very high Council priority. Mr. Mittag said he would be
interested in serving on the Task Force.
4. Continue Review of Land Development Regulations:
a. Conservation PUDs; their connection with subdivisions and master plans
Mr. Conner said the Commission has a lot of tools to work with. He suggested members make each tool
as functions as they want it to work. In September, the Commission can discuss where to apply those
tools.
Ms. Murray said the draft reflects the discussions at past meetings. She asked members to look at pages
2 and 3 and noted that the list applies where there is 50% or more resources on a property. The
requirement in a Conservation PUD is to conserve 70%. The question is what goes on the remainder of
the property.
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Mr. Conner noted that the Hazards, Level 1 and Level 2 resources may be only 32% of the land. He
suggested the other 18% could be buffers. Ms. Murray said there way also be something that has local
interest.
Mr. Conner said they also have to consider continuity so you don’t have “spots of conservation.” He
also cited the importance of providing guidelines to the DRB. Mr. Riehle said the landowner may have a
different priority than what should go there, and you just may have to rely on the landowner.
Ms. Murray said there is no prioritization of the resources beyond Hazards & Level 1. It may not be
needed. If something is really important, it may be possible to kick it up to a Level 1. Mr. Conner
suggested deleting #4 and then not prioritizing the rest.
Ms. Murray noted there is also a requirement for a meeting with neighbors to see what is important to
them. Mr. Conner suggested the applicant indicate why they selected what they did. Ms. Murray said
would be a submission requirement.
Ms. Murray said the proposal is to allow transfer of development rights (TDRs). This can be done within
the parcel or to another area, but not both. Mr. Conner said you can’t do half and half or do part now
and some later. Ms. Ostby asked why not. Ms. Murray said you can split it, but you can’t “double dip.”
Mr. Trombly asked if the Conservation PUD would be required if there is 70% resources. Mr. Conner
said in a Conservation PUD, you have to conserve 70%. The Commission is reserving discussion on when
it may be required possibly to next month.
Ms. Murray said areas for encroachment (e.g., a solar display) can’t count as part of the 70%. Mr.
Conner added that there are very limited times when you can put a stormwater installation in a buffer,
but it won’t count to the 70%.
Mr. Mittag asked about a required installation that the landowner doesn’t control like a power line
going through. Mr. Conner noted a Velco swath could be farmed.
Ms. Ostby said encroachment of a certain kind can be beneficial and enhance the environment like a
solar display. She questioned whether to count them. Mr. Mittag said you can farm under a solar
display. Mr. Conner said he was leaning to keeping it very strict except for a power line that the
applicant has no control over.
Mr. Nick asked if this is an effort to force the Hill Farm into a Conservation PUD. Mr. Conner said they
are not deciding tonight where Conservation PUDs should happen. Mr. Nick noted that the Regional
Plan says this is an area where development should happen. Ms. Ostby said a letter to the Commission
could be helpful. She anticipated discussion would occur at the 14 September meeting.
Ms. Murray noted that in a Conservation PUD management of the land is important as it says how the
resources will be protected. There will have to be a management plan. Mr. Mittag said he would
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eliminate landscape architectures from the list as he didn’t think they have the expertise to manage
resources. Ms. Murray said some landscape architects do specialize in areas of conservation. She added
you wouldn’t want a civil engineer doing it.
Ms. Louisos asked where the Management Plan would go. Ms. Murray said it could be in the Land
records or the Homeowners Association records. Mr. Conner said it should be clarified if it is to go in the
Land Records.
A majority of member agreed to remove landscape architects from the list.
Mr. Trombly said 70% of the land could be turned over to the city or to the HOA for monitoring. What
would that cost be? Ms. Murray said the HOA could lease farmland and make money. But there could
be costs. Mr. Trombly said those costs impact affordability and narrow the range of who can afford to
live in a Conservation PUD. Mr. Mittag said it would depend on the type of resource. Mr. Conner added
with a wetland, there may just have to be assurance that there are no encroachments. But he did
acknowledge the validity of Mr. Trombly’s point. Ms. Murray said sometimes a management fund is
required. Mr. Conner said he would like to discuss this further but not now. He noted South Village has
done some interesting things. Ms. Ostby said they do have to keep costs in mind.
Ms. Ostby said that with an affordability bonus, the density in the 30% of a Conservation PUD could be
significant. She felt it would be good to have a picture of that. She didn’t think that potential for density
has been envisioned.
Mr. Conner said that in the Southeast Quadrant (SEQ) you wind up with about 4 units an acre net in the
developable are. With bonuses, it could be 6 per acre. But that’s after you deduct for roads. He felt
Ms. Ostby’s point was appropriate when you are dealing with Shelburne Road.
Ms. Ostby asked if it is sure the development opportunity is the same as without a PUD, the same
number of units. Mr. Conner said it is but with 2 caveats: the acreage for hazards come out. Also, in the
Conservation PUD, in the Conservation PUD it does not become a receiving area for external TRDs. Ms.
Ostby asked why not. Mr. Mittag asked why not if it is used to come up to the density. Mr. Conner
asked how high they are willing to go with TDRs. Mr. Mittag suggested possibly setting a maximum
density, as much as possible that looks OK. Ms. Ostby said if the Commission decides some places can
only be a Conservation PUD, this becomes an issue. Mr. Conner said that if the 30% which is
developable becomes a TND, you get more density but with higher standards.
Ms. Dooley asked whether Conservation PUDs are compatible with Inclusionary Zoning. Mr. Conner said
Inclusionary Zoning will apply city-wide if you build 12 or more units. How bonuses work with a TND is a
bit tricky. With a development of 22 units, 2 have to be affordable. For those units the developer gets 2
offset units for a total of 24 units. There is also a bonus if the developer chooses to have more
affordable units.
Mr. Trombly asked the thought process in applying a maximum density. Mr. Conner said the purpose of
a Conservation PUD is not to reduce what could be bult. You get that reallocated, more clustered.
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Ms. Ostby questioned whether the Commission is open to allowing TDRs in a Conservation PUD. Ms.
Murray said if you do that, you are increasing the maximum density in the SEQ. Ms. Ostby said they
could say a TND is required if you want to bring in TDRs. Mr. Conner suggested saying only up to what
the property could generate as a whole or some percentage more. He added he was leaning toward
requiring design standards so you get more units but better quality. Ms. Murray felt that made sense.
Ms. Murray said she would welcome feedback regarding design standards. Ms. Ostby suggested
flexibility regarding entrances facing the street.
Mr. Conner said he would like to be able to break out policy level comments separately from things that
are just technical.
5. Minutes of 13 July and 27 July 2021:
Mr. Riehle moved to approve the Minutes of 13 and 27 July as written. Mr. MacDonald seconded. The
motion passed with all present voting in favor.
6. Other Business:
Mr. Conner reminded members of meetings on 24 and 31 August and possibly 7 September.
The next meeting will focus on Infill PUDs.
As there was no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned by
common consent at 9:11 p.m.
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Clerk
SOUTH BURLINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
24 AUGUST 2021
1
The South Burlington Planning Commission held a regular meeting on Tuesday, August 24,
2021, at 7:00 p.m., in the Auditorium, City Hall, 180 Market Street, and via Go to Meeting
remote technology.
MEMBERS PRESENT: J. Louisos, Chair; T. Riehle, M. Ostby, D. Macdonald, P. Engels
ALSO PRESENT: P. Conner, Director of Planning and Zoning; D. Leban, J. Nick, J. Larkin, S.
Dooley, other members of the public
1. Emergency Evacuation Plans:
Mr. Conner provided emergency evacuation information
2. Agenda: Additions, deletions or changes in order of agenda items:
No changes were made to the agenda.
3. Open to the public for items not related to the Agenda:
Ms. Leban noted that she had sent a copy of infill housing information from Portland, Oregon.
She said the Commission should consider what kind of housing they want and then modify the
regulations to accommodate it rather than the other way around. She felt architects should be
consulted to have designs fit a neighborhood.
Mr. Nick said he understands the effort to conserve land but asked whether the city knows
what is already conserved. He felt it would be wise to have that number. He also drew
attention to an article in Vermont Digger which quotes Mr. Conner and Charlie Baker of CCRPC
regarding gearing new development to urban areas. Mr. Nick said South Burlington is a popular
place to live and work. He felt the Hill Farm is clearly infill development and he was concerned
with what he sees as an attempt to limit development on this property. He cited the need to
develop close to Burlington rather than creating longer commutes with more greenhouse
gases. He is concerned that there is no talk of a higher use mixed PUD, which is what he
presented as a concept for the Hill Farm several years ago and what was positively received.
Mr. Conner noted the Hill Farm is zoned Industrial-Open Space which has limited residential
use. Mr. Riehle felt the Commission should talk about that. Ms. Louisos suggested Mr. Nick
send an email regarding his vision for that land. Mr. Conner said Industrial-Open Space may not
be the right zoning, and the Commission may want to establish a new zone there that allows for
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more residential. Mr. Macdonald thought the Neighborhood Commercial PUD might work
there, but the Commission hasn’t gotten to that yet.
Mr. Conner said all the pieces for Neighborhood Commercial PUD exist, but they are not fully
written out yet.
4. Planning Commissioner announcements and staff report:
Ms. Ostby said there seems to be confusion among the City Council regarding whether the
regulations make affordable housing perpetual. She felt it should be clarified that the
regulations create perpetual affordable housing. Mr. Conner said there could be a question
when someone chose to make something affordable.
Mr. Conner noted that Colin McNeil has been appointed City Attorney to replace Andrew
Bolduc who became Deputy City Manager. Mr. McNeil has worked with the city before. He will
start the first or second week in September.
5. Continued Draft Amendments to the Land Development Regulations:
Mr. Conner said this is the first review of Infill PUDs. They are really intended to operate in a
way to complement other PUDs. They allow for a traditional neighborhood with modifications
of the TND when standards would be difficult to meet. They also serve to insert something into
an already built environment. As such, there may be a major utility line or some buildings that
would have to be worked around.
Ms. Ostby asked why a standard TND wouldn’t work. Mr. Conner said the standard TND
requires full blocks and a certain amount of open space which may not be able to be
accommodated. He added that the Infill PUD would only be applied to a smaller piece of
property (e.g., 10 acres). If there is already a park across the street, that could count as the
required park.
Ms. Ostby asked what is “in it” for someone with a Conservation PUD. Mr. Conner supposed a
10-acre piece of land, 40% of which is covered with wetland and forest. In a standard
subdivision, you can only subdivide from the remaining 6 acres. In a Conservation PUD, you
protect 70% but get the density from about the whole property. Ms. Ostby asked if you can put
a TND into the developed area. Mr. Conner said you could. Ms. Ostby asked if an Infill PUD
would work there. Mr. Conner said it could be a “mini-TND.” It could be 4 acres or less, instead
of needing 10 acres. Ms. Ostby was concerned that addressing anything under 4 acres during
Interim Zoning would be a lot to go through including things the Commission hasn’t had to
address so far (e.g., road frontage). She said if you don’t have to address road frontage, it
would be OK, but that’s in the current regulations. Mr. Conner said all forms lean very heavily
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on frontage on the street. Ms. Ostby said the 2-4 acre parcels on the map don’t usually have
the possibility for street frontage because of the shapes of the parcels. Mr. Conner said
buildings can fronton a street or cottages can face a “courtyard.” The regulations wouldn’t
allow a building that was just “stuck there” with no relationship to the neighborhood. Ms.
Ostby said if it’s not as complicated as she thinks it is, she’s OK with it.
Mr. Engels asked if an Infill PUD can be in an open area. Mr. Conner said that is a good
question. Mr. Conner said there could be a green site on Shelburne Rd. where everything
around it is built up, and you might want to go with a traditional PUD there.
Ms. Louisos said she likes this option for sites that aren’t big enough to support other PUDs.
She wanted to be sure development is happening efficiently. She felt concerns should be
addressed, but the idea should not be thrown out.
Mr. Riehle questioned where the green space will be in City Center when there are 1000 units
there. He wanted to see a space for kids to throw a ball around. Mr. Conner said subdivisions
and PUD types require 10% of the space to be devoted to “civic space.” Where to have a city-
wide park is another question. Mr. Conner added that the Infill PUD does give the DRB the
ability to reduce certain minimums when they are accessible within a quarter mile. In a 10-acre
PUD, you have to provide for those things. He also noted that staff always encourages people
to think creatively (e.g., working with adjacent properties to get something better for both
properties.
Ms. Louisos asked what happens if what is next door to a property is something the city doesn’t
want. Does the Infill developer have to match that? Mr. Conner said that is a good question
and is very important on the residential side.
Ms. Ostby asked what about a piece with one large house and whether that would lead to
“McMansions.”
Mr. MacDonald recalled the Highland Terrace neighborhood where neighbors were not happy
with infill development. He felt there will be some feedback. Mr. Conner said Highland Terrace
is a place where they can look at underlying zoning. What is being built is exactly what the
zoning calls for.
Mr. Conner said the issue is you want to build in the character of a neighborhood when that
character is great, not when it isn’t. He added that with what Ms. Murray has written you do
get development but you have to meet the character of the neighborhood, and you have to be
creative.
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Mr. Conner noted that if the zoning doesn’t match what is around it, that zoning will have to be
reconsidered to solve the issue.
Ms. Ostby said that under base density, the minimum required density is 4 per acre or the
maximum allowed in the underlying zoning. She asked if the zoning is 2 per acre whether that
number becomes 4 per acre. Mr. Conner said it does otherwise the economics won’t work.
Ms. Ostby felt that makes sense with a larger parcel, but with 2-3 acres, there is not a lot of
room. Mr. Conner said the next paragraph allows the DRB to be more flexible in certain
circumstances. He stressed that a PUD is always a negotiation.
Ms. Ostby said she felt this could be a very good thing but questioned why they would create
something that have problems. She thought that as it is written, it is giving very strong
motivation for someone to do an Infill PUD. Ms. Louisos said the Commission will be discussing
where these are acceptable.
Ms. Ostby questioned whether to allow infill in an R-1 neighborhood. Mr. Conner responded
that what they are seeing now is 9 or fewer units being built on 5 and 6 acre parcels in order to
avoid Act 250. Those parcels can never be built on again, and that is not efficient use of land.
The Infill PUD can address that.
Mr. Conner then reviewed some input from Mr. Mittag. He generally liked the Infill PUD but
felt there should be more design flexibility. He also felt that areas on Shelburne Rd. should be
integrated in and drive-throughs should be prohibited. The parcels should also have 25% or
fewer resources (Level 1, 2 or hazards). Mr. Conner noted that drive-throughs are prohibited in
most places in the city.
Ms. Ostby felt that with Shelburne Road and residential mixed us, there should be more
distance from the road because of noise issues. She cited friends who have moved from a
beautiful apartment in the new Larkin building on Shelburne Road because of the noise. Mr.
Conner said that is not easy to address though he understands the importance.
Mr. Riehle said he generally likes from p. 5 on, though he thought the DRB will have challenges.
Ms. Ostby questioned the requirement to orient a building to the street particularly when the
views are to the rear and to address privacy and noise mitigation. Mr. Conner noted that 2
years ago the Commission required doors to the street. Ms. Ostby said they now have
experience. There are large parcels with views to the back of them in the Auto zoning area.
Mr. Larkin acknowledged that there have been noise complaints from residents of the
Shelburne Road building, but the majority of people are OK. He said the complaints wouldn’t
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preclude them from doing that kind of building again. When a building is nearer to the road,
they can get more units in, and they can provide a lower price point on some units.
Mr. MacDonald said he is fairly comfortable with the Infill PUDs. They just need to work out
some details.
Ms. Ostby questioned whether an Infill PUD will work in the buildable area of a Conservation
PUD. Mr. Conner said they could say a “cottage court” can be built on a smaller piece of
acreage. Ms. Ostby asked whether 4 families could get together, tear down their homes, and
build something like this. Mr. Conner said they could but they would have to meet all the
regulations including replacing all the 4 dwelling units.
Ms. Leban asked how you add a unit to a one-story ranch house. She felt you shouldn’t want to
match that. She asked if there is an exception to “contextual obligations.” Mr. Conner said the
solution to that is not at the PUD level; it is at the zoning level. You can have a triplex that looks
like a single family home, but that is another discussion.
Ms. Leban asked if there is an allowance for increased density for an efficiency apartment
regarding affordability. Mr. Conner noted that accessory units don’t count for density by State
law. Any single family dwelling on its own lot can have an accessory apartment that meets
certain requirements.
Ms. Dooley said what is especially important in the TDNs is the promotion of strong
neighborhoods. She said she supports no drive-throughs. She also stressed that Kirby Cottages
are below the Infill PUD threshold. Ms. Louisos read from the regulations regarding preserving
neighborhoods and noted there are standards that try to achieve that.
Ms. Ostby asked if she is alone in her concern with building orientation with regard to
Shelburne Road. She noted that if you build housing in the old Hannaford off Shelburne Road,
you are facing Lowe’s, and there are beautiful views in the other direction. She felt that the
decision to have buildings front on a road should be reconsidered in instance such as this. Mr.
Riehle noted that some buildings on Hinesburg Road have created a “front door façade” with
the actual entrances to the side and rear. Ms. Ostby said a grove of trees would be appealing
as you drive down Shelburne Road. Mr. Conner said you can’t change the regulations just for
the PUDs.
In a straw poll of members, 3 felt the regulation should stand as written, 1 wants it changed.
Mr. Riehle abstained. Mr. Riehle said he agrees with Ms. Ostby regarding trees, and he was
torn about allowing a greater setback. Mr. Conner stressed that the aim is to continue the
pattern of development.
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6. Other Business:
Mr. Conner said that the hope is for the next meeting to bring back the TND, Conservation PUD,
and Infill TND. Ms. Murray may also have the Commercial ready. The meeting following that
will deal with all the other things, what has to be done, what is already done, etc. One of the
things that will come up next week is “carving out” parcels. Ms. Ostby felt they should have a
straw poll as to whether to allow Infill PUDs in unbuilt areas. Mr. Conner said there is also the
question of whether to allow a Conservation PUD in a buildable area. Mr. Mac Donald asked
how they will define “unbuilt.” Is it no building? What about one building? Mr. Conner said if
the Commission says no infill, they can go back to the underlying zoning.
Mr. Louisos said the word “infill” may be the problem. She felt the tool is important, but she
wasn’t sure it was necessarily “infill.” Ms. Ostby said size is the only difference between this
and a regular TND. Ms. Louisos suggested possibly calling it a “small TND. Mr. Conner said he’d
like to think about that.
Regarding the Williston changes, Mr. Conner noted they are considering reducing but not
eliminating parking standards. Mr. Macdonald noted they are also considering cannabis sales.
As there was no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned
by common consent at 9:32 p.m.
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Clerk
SOUTH BURLINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING MINUTES
31 AUGUST 2021
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The South Burlington Planning Commission held a special meeting on Tuesday, 31 August 2021, at 7:00
p.m., in the Auditorium, City Hall, 180 Market Street and via Go to Meeting remote technology.
MEMBERS PRESENT: J. Louisos, Chair; B. Gagnon, T. Riehle, M. Ostby, M. Mittag, D. MacDonald, P.
Engels
ALSO PRESENT: P. Conner, Director of Planning and Zoning; S. Dooley, J. Nick
1. Agenda: Additions, deletions or changes in order of agenda items:
No changes were made to the agenda.
2. Instructions on exiting building in case of emergency:
Ms. Louisos provided instruction on emergency exit from the building.
3. Open to the public for items not related to the Agenda:
No issues were raised.
4. Planning Commissioner announcements and staff report:
Ms. Louisos noted receipt of a response regarding the letter sent about the solar array. It will be on the
next agenda.
Ms. Louisos also noted that at its next meeting the City Council will hear the revisions to the Official City
Map.
Mr. Riehle said the Commission should talk about the letter received from Jeff Davis’s attorney. Ms.
Louisos said they can put it under “other business.”
5. Swift Street/Spear Street Intersection Study:
Ms. Louisos reviewed the history. She noted that the Bike/Ped Committee made a recommendation for
a roundabout as the safest, though most expensive, option.
Ms. Ostby noted that UVM has ideas in its Strategic Plan for the barn area to which the main access is on
the Spear Street side. The roundabout would remove that, and UVM will want to maintain that as a safe
access for cars. Ms. Louisos said the details for that could be worked out.
Mr. Mittag then moved to approve the roundabout option recommended by the Bike/Ped Committee as
the safest.
Mr. Conner noted the next level will be for design which will provide a more detailed design.
A representative from UVM asked to be included in the future discussion as the roundabout will remove
their access to Spear Street and the Wheelock parcel. They are also concerned with bike and pedestrian
safety.
Mr. Engels said he will vote against the motion as there is o evidence that this is not a safe intersection.
There have been no injuries at this site, and it will cost $1,000,000 more than other options. He felt
there were much better ways to spend that money.
Ms. Ostby was concerned about the amount of land it will take from the northeast corner. She wants to
be sure the City Council knows that. Mr. MacDonald said the roundabout actually takes the least
amount of right-of-way.
In the vote that followed the motion passed 6-1 with Mr. Engels voting against.
6. Continued Review of Proposed Land Development Regulations:
Mr. Mittag moved to approve all of 5c. Ms. Ostby seconded. Motion passed unanimously.
A. Habitat Blocks:
Ms. Louisos noted the draft contains the changes the Commission asked for.
Mr. Mittag suggested under “standards” in 12.02c to use “extreme” instead of “unnecessary” or
“extraordinary.” Mr. Conner said he will run that by the City Attorney. In a straw poll, members were
unanimous to let the City Attorney decide, as long as the language sets a high bar.
In Sect. 12.05c5 Ms. Ostby asked if it is OK to have such a structure in a connector. Mr. Conner said this
is separate from relocating a habitat connector. There are times when 150 feet can’t be met. The DRB
can make a judgment when there is an obstacle to planting in an area that requires restoration work.
Mr. Riehle said 2 inch caliper seems small for a tree. Ms. Ostby said that is the biggest size you can
move around safely. She suggested deferring to the Arborist on this. Mr. Conner said the Arborist can
take a look. He also noted that planting a larger tree may not always be a good idea.
Ms. Ostby asked why “institutional” is included in 12.06.2a and not in residential. She felt it should be in
“b” not “a.” She then moved to move Industrial and Ag from 12.062a and 2a1 to 12.06.2b1 and 2b. Mr.
Riehle seconded. Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Conner noted that one change that was made was to make habitat blocks and connectors as
overlays.
Ms. Ostby questioned whether on p. 27 the prohibiting of basements in new-builds was only for
commercial. Mr. Conner said it was for both commercial and residential. If you meet the definition for
“substantial improvements,” you must fill in the basement. You can said it only applies if you
completely rebuild the house. Language now is at the cost of 100% of the value of the house. Mr.
Gagnon suggested saying “at the appraised value of the house.” Mr. Connor felt that makes sense. He
also noted that any change has to be cleared by the State so federal standards are not violated. He will
check on “appraised value.”
Mr. Riehle questioned why a recreational vehicle has to be fully licensed and asked if that refers to a go-
cart. Mr. Conner said it means an RV.
Ms. Ostby said she would like to check the overlay map with the Arrowwood mapping to verify that the
connectors are where they should be.
Mr. Nick asked where they wound u with recommendations for removal/retaining. Ms. Louisos said it is
where it was mapped in the draft that went out. Mr. Nick asked if the “pink areas” were adopted. Mr.
Conner said the Commission made adjustments in October. Then in June, Arrowwood reported on
those changes and made recommendations. The Planning Commission did not accept those changes in
a 3-3 vote. The applicable map is the one warned for public hearing for this parcel.
Mr. Nick said their concern is that of their 42 acres, 38% is almost a taking. He said there is no forest
along the Interstate. All the invasives have been removed. There is also no provision for a consultant
they would hire to debate this. Mr. Nick added it seems counterintuitive to have habitat along the
Interstate corridor. He was not sure what the Commission was trying to accomplish. The finger along
the Interstate is no longer a habitat block. He also noted this area is identified by the Regional Plan as a
“growth area.”
Ms. Ostby moved to reconsider the straw poll on habitat block on map #12 to accept Arrowwood’s
changes (areas in yellow), adding in the lower and removing the upper, and remove the area outlined in
the yellow rectangle identified as “retain.” Mr. Riehle seconded.
Mr. Engel noted that the state says straw polls are just as valid as formal votes, so they don’t have to
redo anything.
Mr. Nick noted the retained portion is a meadow, not a habitat block. Ms. Louisos said in this case the
Commission cut it out because it isn’t forest. The Core is defined as the edge of the habitat block. Ms.
Ostby said Arrowwood said in 10 years there would be forest there.
Mr. Nick said they would never develop on the Interstate piece. He said they can hire a consultant with
another opinion. He considers this a “taking” as 42 acres are being “taken.” Ms. Ostby said that the
density from those acres can be used in the developable portion. Mr. Conner said that only applies in a
Conservation PUD with 70% of the land remaining undeveloped. Mr. Mittag said the retained portion
could be narrower based on the Google map.
In the vote that followed, the motion was defeated 3-4.
Mr. Gagnon then moved to remove the area shown on the Arrowwood map as “remove.” Mr. Mittag
seconded. Motion passed unanimously.
Regarding Article 12, Mr. Mittag asked to delay discussion so he can relook at his notes. Ms. Louisos
noted the Council wants to see all the parts together.
7. Continued Review of Draft Conservation PUDs”
Ms. Ostby felt they don’t have to give so much in the purpose statement because Article 12 does so
much. He found it wordy and confusing. Mr. Conner said he had issue narrowing it.
Ms. Ostby said the last 2 bullets are most important. Mr. Mittag felt it reaffirms Article 12 and
reinforces its strength. Ms. Ostby said then it should be in all the other PUDs. Mr. Conner said the
difference is that hazards and level 1 and level 2 resources are excluded from PUDs; here it is the
protected part of the PUD. Mr. MacDonald said he felt mentioning Article 12 strengthens it.
Mr. Engels suggested the language “conserve the city’s most important resources.” Members agreed to
that.
Ms. Dooley said under Conservation PUD the word “are” is used. She asked if there is a “has to” or “may
do” difference and whether there can be a Conservation PUD that doesn’t have to meet all the criteria.
Mr. Conner said the purpose statement gives context, and he is comfortable with the list as it is. It is
intended to be read together to provide context.
Under C2, Mr. Mittag felt it should read “where any portion of it is in the Southeast Quadrant.” Ms.
Louisos said the spot she would be concerned about is Village Residential zoning where they talked
about having neighborhoods.
Members then considered the ‘carve out’ piece. Mr. Engels said he wants to remove it. Mr. Conner said
Sharon drafted it based on what she thought the Commission was looking for. On a one-time basis,
someone could subdivide off a couple of parcels. Mr. Gagnon recalled they talked about that for
someone setting aside a piece for family members only one time. Ms. Ostby felt this was part of the big
conversation on the 14th. Mr. Conner noted that even a “carve out” would have to be near the roadway
and be subject to subdivision standards.
Mr. Mittag said he was OK with what Sharon wrote as long as there is no minimum density. Mr. Conner
noted that if a driveway goes past 2 houses on the property, it has to become a road. He added that it
would have to be a Conservation PUD. Mr. Engels felt the DRB would have a hard time dealing with this.
Ms. Dooley urged the Commission to think about unintended consequences. There is no requirement
that the “carve off” would have to be for the owner’s kids.
Members agreed to continue the discussion on the 14th.
Regarding TDRs, Mr. Conner reminded members that in a Conservation PUD, all the density that would
otherwise be developed goes into the 30% that is not conserved. This works out to about 4 units per
acre. If the Commission allows TDRs beyond that, there has to be a decision on net density.
Alternatively, there could be a TND on the buildable portion. There would be no upper cap because that
development depends on building types. The difference is that the first option is based on underlying
zoning, and the TND sets a higher bar of design and you get what fits. Mr. Conner cautioned not to have
the 2 options “bleed” into each other or people will take the easier one.
Mr. Mittag felt you shouldn’t put a TND in a Conservation PUD because it “muddies the waters.” Ms.
Ostby countered that the landowner is preserving 70% of the resources, and to do that they get a
greater density in the 30%. Mr. Conner added that with the first option you can still have a minimum of
2 building types, civic space, etc.
Ms. Dooley said in a TND there is no offset/bonus for inclusionary units. She questioned how many
units a person could build under the current zoning and would like that answer for the next meeting.
Mr. Conner said Ms. Dooley’s question is a tricky one. Many properties are not building to the
maximum density now, and he wasn’t sure he could run the math that would make people confident.
Ms. Ostby said Sharon’s numbers don’t include offsets and bonuses. She said that if they go the TND
route and had a minimum density, development could be phased. Mr. Conner said that is built into it. A
developer would be vested in the current rules for 10 years; after that, they would be subject to the
rules at that time. Ms. Ostby said that would ensure that what is built immediately is clustered. She felt
that in a non-TND very large homes could be built.
Mr. Conner said that part of the goal for the next meeting is to determine where the Commission is with
PUD types. He said he would probably recommend that the upper net density not go much more than 8
to 10 per acre. Ms. Ostby said she would like the Energy Committee’s input on that. Mr. Conner noted
that shared walls are more energy efficient as are compact neighborhoods with shops nearby.
Mr. Mittag asked if they can require solar for new construction. Mr. MacDonald reminded members
that they passed an amendment for solar-ready. Ms. Louisos said installation of solar is tabled till after
Interim Zoning.
Mr. Conner said Sharon noted the city doesn’t have control over solar fields. If you put it in the 70%,
you can’t count it as your conservation amount. He also reminded members that the city does not
control installation of solar, but if there is a developed energy plan, there can be more of a role in the
process.
8. Climate Action Plan Task Force:
Ms. Louisos noted the Commission has been asked to choose a representative. Mr. Mittag expressed his
interest in this. Ms. Ostby questioned whether the representative would be representing him/herself or
the Commission. Mr. Mittag said the assumption is the Commission. Mr. Conner said the expectation is
that decisions would come to the Commission, but the Task Force would not need authorization for
everything they do.
Mr. MacDonald then moved to appoint Mr. Mittag to the Climate Action Plan Task Force to represent
the Planning Commission. Mr. Riehle seconded. Motion passed unanimously.
9. Other Business:
Mr. Riehle noted receipt of a letter from the attorney representing Jeff Davis and Jeff Nick. He said he
found the tone offensive. Mr. Mittag said the land was bought 20 years ago when there was very little
knowledge of climate change. Ms. Ostby said that parcel in part of the Interim Zoning area and would
have to go to the City Council anyway. Mr. Mittag felt the Commission has tried to do the best for them
taking into account the rest of the community. Mr. Gagnon questioned whether there is a potential for
unintended consequences. He also noted potential issues with UVM land where they want to build
dorms and felt the Commission should be aware of potential issues there as well.
Members then reviewed the schedule. The next meeting is on 14 September. Mr. Conner said they
should be voting for a public hearing in early October.
Mr. Mittag said the Commission is also concerned with affordable housing and felt that to achieve this
they need to go up to 10 stories at least with green space around it. Ms. Louisos felt this would be good
to add to the work plan.
As there was no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned by
common consent at 9:36 p.m.
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