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June 10, 1985
CORPORATION
RD #2 . Box 303 • Williston, VT 05495
Ms. Jane Bechtel
Planner, City of So. Burlington
Founding Committee: 575 Dorset Street
So. Burlington, VT 05401
Frances & Chandlee Archer Dear M s . Bechtel
Francie & Evan Archer
Meredith& David Babbott, M.D. Thanks very much for sending us a copy of the
Olivia & Duncan Brown Planning Commission meetings of May 7. We appreciate
Birgit &Edward A. Deeds your arranging to have us appear at that time.
Barbara& William Dunnington We will consult with you before submitting
Mary Jane& Stokes Gentry, M.D. the formal application for the subdivision process.
Barbara& Richard Ketchum We are still negotiating on the land. Also, we
will wait for final results of our feasibility
Elizabeth&James McKay, M.D. study before planning to go ahead.
Louise &Robert Ransom
Doro & Ethan Sims, M.D. Thank you again for your assistance.
John Strong
Sincerely yours,
Barbara & Richard Wadhams
Priscilla & George Welsh, M.D.
Gertrude & Norman Winde Stokes Gentry, Chairm'?n
Catherine Yandell Wake Robin Corporation
William A. Tisdale, M.D.,
Medical Advisor S G/ m j g
Vermont's Non-profit Community for Independent Living and Continuing Health Care
PLANNING COMMISSION
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I,AY 7. 1985
Consider request to rezone an area on the west side of Farrell Street from
Lakeside Tennis to I-189 from Cl to C2
Mr. Spitz represented the owners, the Vermont Federal Bank.
Mr. Poger noted that C2 zoning would allow more uses.
Mr. Spitz said the bank was interested in rezoning the one piece of land,
but the City Hall staff felt that would be sQDt zoning. The adjacent lot
could also be rezoned C2. The proposed user for the site would involve some
sort of warehousing use. Mr. Spitz noted that access for the lot is to Farrell
Stieet. He did not see retail as a possible use, although he felt office
space would be a possibility.
Mr. Poger said the Commission wanted to see a plan for Mr. Farrell's
entire area plus accesses. They have asked for this before, but have not
seen it.
The Commission seemed amenable to the plan in general, Mr. Poger said,
but they wanted both parcels in the;area rezoned and,the zone should follow
the property lines.
Discussion of Continuing Care Retirement Community concept on a parcel of
land in the Southeast Quadrant
Ms. Bechtel said the Wake Robin Corp. had sent the Commission a letter
regarding the plan, dated May 2, 1985. The most important item to discuss
now is the Commission's proposal to allow no condominium units in the Quadrant.
Ms. Bechtel noted that this was not a condominium development, but that it
would look like one in that the units will be attached.
Mr. Gentry said they had been thinking and talking about this project for
about 1 year. It would be modeled on similar projects in the Philadeaphia
area. There would be an administrative core facility with a dining area,
library, lounge, etc. There would also be an on -site health care facility with
small outpatient services and a small nursing home. The corporation would
own the living units and residents would pay an entry fee and a monthly fee.
They would be able to stay in the facility for the rest of their lives. It
was noted that city taxes would be paid and that since the average age will
be 70-72 of the people entering, they will not generate a lot of traffic at
peak times and there will be no school children. The buildings must be
attached so people can get around under cover. These will be individual
living units with kitchens, and one or two bedrooms. The developers are
thinking about having 125-150 units, which would be a density of about R1 on
the land they are considering, which is about 120 acres. They want to leave
a lot of green space around the community. They might employ about 50 people.
The Commission liked this concept. Mrs. Maher pointed out that it provided for
a new segment of the population.
Discussion of density calculations, Section 19.52
Mrs. Maher felt the Commission should calculate density the way the ordinance
sets forth. After some discussion, the Commission said density should be
calculated by starting with the minimum allowed, and working up to the maximum,
as set forth in the ordinance.
Other business
Mr. Poger noted that as his wife was not a member of the Commission, be
felt she should pay for her own dinner next week. The Commission overruled him.
May 10, 1985
Dr. and Mrs. Stokes Gentry
Wake Robin Corporation
RD #2, Box 303
Williston, Vermont 05495
Dear Dr. & Mrs. Gentry:
Enclosed are the minutes of the Planning Commission meeting of
Tuesday, May 7, 1985. Please let me know if and when you want
to proceed with the Subdivision process.
I am also enclosing a page from the Land Use Digest concerning
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Sincerely,
Jane S. Bechtel,
City Planner
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CORPORATION
RD #2 . Box 303 . Williston, VT 05495 May 2, 1985
Ms. Jane Bechtel, Planner
Founding Committee: So. Burlington City Offices
Dorset Street
So. Burlington, VT 05401
Frances & Chandlee Archer
Francie & Evan Archer Dear Ms_.:_ Bechtel:
Meredith & David Babbott, M.D.
Thanks so much for the time you and Bill Szymanski
Olivia & Duncan Brown took to meet with us about our Continuing Care Retirement
Birgit & Edward A. Deeds Community (CCRC) project. We also appreciate the opportunity
Barbara & William Dunnington to discuss the concept informally with the Planning Commission
Mary Jane & Stokes Gentry, M.D. on Tuesday evening.
Barbara & Richard Ketchum As we told to you, we are designing the community
Elizabeth & James McKay, M.D. to capture "the best of Vermont" and also the best of the
Louise & Robert Ransom CCRC's, namely those that have been so successful in the
Doro & Ethan Sims, M.D. Philadelphia area (egs . Foulkeways in Gwynedd, Kendal-Crossland.s
in Kennett Square, Pennswood in Newtown Square and. Medford Leas
John Strong in Medford, N.J. )
Barbara & Richard Wadhams
Priscilla & George Welsh, M.D. The goal of the project is to insure quality, in -
Gertrude & Norman Winde dependent yet supportive living for elderly people at every
Catherine Yandell stage of their lives. Under a "life care agreement"made
between the community and the resident and upon payment by the
William A. Tisdale, M.D., resident an entry fee and regular monthly fees, the community
Medical Advisor will guarantee the resident independent living for as long
as it is appropriate; use of common facilities; certain
dining, maintenance, and transportation services; and a con-
tinuum of health care services.
Essential to the success of such a community in
Vermont, we feel, will be an attractive site. It should be
large enough to allow for a central facility, clustered one
and two bedroom living units, and considerable open space for a
campus -like setting. Proximity to stores, cultural and
learning centers, volunteer opportunities is essential. Some
of the lands in the southeast quadrant of South Burlington
admirably fill these requirements. Once the location is firm,
we plan our extensive market analysis. Ground would not be
broken until the units are 50 to 70% "sold".
We feel that a successful Continuing Care Retirement
Community will not only serve a significant social purpose; it
will also be a community asset and resource.
Sinc -rely yours,
Stokes Gent' ry, Chairm1a
Wake Robin corporation
Vermont's Non-profit Community for Independent Living and Continuing Health Care
Memorandum
May 7, 1985
May 3, 1985
Page 2
agenda items
of Farrell Street from Cl to
Lakeside Tennis property and
for a depth that could follow
(see aerial photograph)
C2. The proposed location includes the
the Farrel.:t/Gardenway property to I-189
the property line or could be uniform.
The entire area between I-189, Shelburne Road and Farrell Street is
zoned Cl. The land across Farrell Street to the east is zoned C2.
The primary reason for this rezoning is that wholesale and storage
and distribution are allowed in C2 and are not in Cl. This is a
potential use of the Lakeside Tennis building. In theory, the C2
uses are lower traffic generators than the Cl uses and will have a
lower traffic impact on Farrell and Swift Streets. This of course
depends on the particular tenant, however. David Spitz will present
the arguments for this zone change.
5) CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY
Enclosed is the letter from Wake Robin, Inc., a non-profit organization
formed to build and operate a self-contained retirement community.
While this is not a sketch plan review, there are a number of issues
that I would like the Commission to discuss in regard to this concept
so that we may guide this future subdivision applicant appropriately.
The most important issue is that this community is proposed for an
area in the Southeast Quadrant. While I have discussed most of the
City's requirements and preferences with the applicant, we need
further discussion on the "attached" versus "detached" housing
restriction that is included in the 1985 Comprehensive Plan.
6) DENSITY CALCULATIONS
I would like the Commission to discuss the density formula for P.U.D.'s.
Is it appropriate? fair? How should it be enforced?
I spoke with David Spitz and Stephen Page who gave slightly different
interpretations. Page said he would first calculate a density ceiling
based on maximum density times the gross acres such as R7 x 4 acres =
28 units. He would then consider 150 of the acreage for all streets
and roadways as an average estimate and negotiate a lesser number
of units if needed for fire access; distance between buildings, etc.
Spitz said he would start with the lower limit allowed by the formula
and work up to the maximum as long as there was no problem. In both
cases it is difficult, and sometimes impossible to reasonably estimate
May 3, 1985
Stokes Gentry, Chairman
Wake Robin Corporation
RD #2, Box 303
Williston, Vermont 05495
Dear Dr. Gentry:
Enclosed are the agenda and a copy of my memo to the Planning
Commission. I have included your letter of May 2, 1985 in the
member's packets.
Please call me if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Jane S. Bechtel,
City Planner
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