HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 17, 2021 DRB Hearing Staff Comments Final 02 17 21Eastview* at O’Brien Farm
Preliminary Plat Meeting #1
February 17, 2021
*Working name of the Project for Permitting Purposes.
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Presentation Overview
●Presentation reviews staff report in order.
●Each numbered staff comment is discussed.
●A number of discussion points were not enumerated but are important and are also discussed here in order.
●Screenshots and excerpts from staff report are provided. Staff report text is BLACK and RED
●Applicant text is in BLUE
●Excerpts from City Reports and Applicant Narrative are labeled throughout but may appear in black text as
well with a BLUE border if provided by Applicant.
●Applicant has added emphasis to staff report comments with RED underline.
Project Phasing
●Applicant is happy
to discuss phasing
●Applicant would
request input from
the board on
priorities.
●Discuss after
solidifying other
aspects of project.
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Lot Coverage
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●Important to recognize this limitation of the R1 district.
Comprehensive Plan
●Applicant has addressed these criteria in its introduction to the project and believes that the project is
designed with these goals in mind.
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●Staff report makes reference to the project’s
layout in correspondence with this map.
●Overlay is provided for reference.
Comprehensive Plan
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Transportation and Connectivity
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Transportation and Connectivity
O’Brien Farm Road Extension
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Kimball/Kennedy Intersection Improvements
●Applicant did not propose to construct the intersection improvements noted at Kennedy Drive.
●Applicant would recommend that any condition required be based on projected trip counts, not the lot
number or acreage of involved land.
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Applicant Proposed Traffic Improvements:
Project Narrative Page 20
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Traffic Improvement Draft Plans Exhibit 015
Warranted
But Not
Proposed
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Traffic Improvement Draft Plans Exhibit 015
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Kimball Avenue and Old Farm Road Intersection
●Applicant is happy to work with staff to determine if a less impactful design can be found that achieves the
required level of service.
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Hinesburg Road and Old Farm Road Intersection
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Old Farm Road Traffic Calming
●Applicant is happy to provide additional detail on the sections and plans.
●Production of this level of detail was postponed to allow for the conversations we are having now.
●Applicant will engage a professional consultant with relevant expertise to safely facilitate pedestrian and
vehicle movement but believes that the findings of this Preliminary Plat are integral to the success of that
design.
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Old Farm Road Widening, Bike and Pedestrian Connections
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Old Farm Road Widening, Bike and Pedestrian Connections
●Existing Rec Path
●Planned
Continuation
●Request from Bike
And Pedestrian
Committee
●Planned Connection
from Existing Path to
Tilley Drive,
Referenced in the
Recreation Impact
Fee Ordinance
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Old Farm Road Widening, Neighborhood Impacts
●The addition of the path requested would require clearing and widening of Old Farm Road in the existing
neighborhood of at least 20’ to allow for work to be completed.
●The impacts of this widening on neighbors would be very noticeable.
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Old Farm Neighborhood Impacts
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Old Farm Road Widening Neighborhood Impacts
●East side contains overhead
power and easements related.
●City Ordinances did not
contemplate this connection in
2014 or currently.
●A different route has been
contemplated and planned for
by Applicant at Eldredge Street
(Now O’Brien Farm Road).
●Neighbor expectations on Old
Farm Road do not include
recreational path.
●Existing privately owned
garages, fences, landscaping,
trees and parking areas would
either need to be significantly
altered or removed altogether.
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Impacts of A Recreation Path to Proposed New Development
5’
32’
<20’
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Old Farm Road Parallel Parking
•Applicant will engage a professional consultant with relevant expertise to safely facilitate pedestrian and
vehicle movement but believes that the findings of the Preliminary Plat are integral to the success of that
design.
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Old Farm Road Sections
●Applicant is happy to provide
proposed sections of Old Farm
Road.
●Applicant has not yet engaged
in this as it felt that it would be
good to solidify the overall
layout.
●Applicant believes that this
could be deferred to final plat.
●Applicant will provide
intersection geometry
requested.
●Applicant would request that
the board not provide
restrictions that will limit
construction, but rather would
require Applicant to work with
the Director of Public Works in
coordinating any infrastructure
work and road closures.
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Overall Transportation Network
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Lot 31 Configuration and Unit Access
●Applicant reconfigured its original plan in
cooperation with staff to create the proposed alley
layout.
●Rear yards of homes accessed from Legacy Farm will
be usable and the usable rear yards will represent a
significant and marketable feature.
●Changing all Lot 31 homes to Alley access would
result in 25 of 67 single family homes proposed being
alley access with detached garages, which is not a
requirement of the zoning.
●Detached garages present a limitation to the types of
users (particularly seniors and those with mobility
concerns) that those homes can be realistically
marketed towards.
●While we appreciate Staff’s desire to see rear loaded
garages we believe we have made a significant
investment in attempting to meet in the middle on a
significant number of rear loaded homes while
providing more conventional attached garages on
others.
●We believe this is a balanced approach and hope the
Board agrees.”27
Vehicular Connections to Hillside at O’Brien Farm
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Vehicular Connections to Phase I Master Plan
Pedestrian
Easements
Vehicular
Connection
●O’Brien Brothers worked with the City to create and approve a master plan.
●The Master Plan presented and solidified via finding connections to future phases, both vehicular and
pedestrian, which is one of the main purposes/benefits of going through the Master Plan process.
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Vehicular Connection to Phase I Master Plan
●In March of 2018, after
working with the
Development Review
Board to approve the
Master Plan, the City
Council and Planning
Commission at the
Recommendation of
City Staff and the DRB
amended the Official
Map of the City to
specifically remove a
proposed connection in
the location now
discussed, and to
replace the connection
with the connection
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Vehicular Connection to Phase I Master Plan
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City ROW Does Not Extend to Lot 18 Open Space
●There is no access easement extending to Lot 18
from Hillside.
●Purple is edge of City ROW
●That easement would require approval from
over 60 homeowners in the Hillside Association
to deed their land to the City.
●Homes on Split Rock court are sold and owned
by private residents of South Burlington who
bought their homes with no easements shown
in this location.
●An 18 Month permitting process including
extensive back and forth with City staff, the
Development Review Board and even the City
Council resulted in the existing fully permitted
development plan.
●This plan is now over 60% occupied or under
contract and construction.
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Future Connection to Tilley Drive
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Future Connection to Tilley Drive
●Applicant has shifted the proposed
through-street to the east as a benefit to
the residential neighborhood planned.
●The location proposed allows for larger
lots and development areas which are a
pre-requisite for large commercial
industrial users.
●The connection to Tilley Drive can still
be made in this alternative location.
●Applicant has had preliminary
discussions with the owners of the Tilley
Drive property and we are in tentative
agreement as to how that connection
could be made.
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Connection to Industrial Commercial Area
●In response to issues of potential future
connection, applicant added a 50’ easement at
the connection point discussed at Sketch Plan.
●This easements will allow for Applicant and the
Board to discuss potential connections in the
future as needed.
●Applicant does not believe this connection to be
buildable or practical.
●This connection has a number of issues that are
discussed at length in the project narrative.
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Connection to Industrial Commercial Area: Grade Change
●The proposed roadway requires extreme fills.
●Zoning Regulations specifically require streets
to be logically related to topography.
●See application narrative excerpt below.
●The proposed connection is not a logical
connection specifically due to topography.
●As shown on this section through a potential
road in the purple, there would be up to 15 feet
of fill.
Road
Ground You Are
Building On
+/-15’
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Connection to Industrial Commercial Area: Grade Change
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Connection to Industrial Commercial Lands Incompatible Use
●Applicant believes that a vehicular
connection will diminish the safety and
value of the planned residential
neighborhood, due to incompatible
uses
●The zoning regulations require a
landscape buffer
●Section 13.06 is provided here for
reference.
●Such a buffer is provided in the project
currently.
●The layout and style of uses depicted
are likely in this zoning area.
●Connecting these uses would provide a
cut through for industrial traffic on a
local neighborhood street.38
Connection to Industrial Commercial Lands Incompatible Use
●Permitted Uses in IC listed for
reference.
●At this time any of these uses
could be permitted.
●Specifically prohibited is any
residential use or compatible
mixed use.39
Connection to Industrial Commercial Vehicular Crossing of
Planned Wildlife Corridor
●Applicant has provided two un-bisected north-
south wildlife corridors in the Project.
●This is in keeping with natural resource
committee recommendations (see point 3
below).
●This was informed by the process to create
new environmental protection standards. See
excerpt from draft zoning regulation changes
below.
●The proposed vehicular connection would
bisect this and remove this connector and the
ability of wildlife to migrate safely across the
site.
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Connection to Industrial Commercial Comprehensive Plan
●Applicant has provided a
network of connections focused
on pedestrians.
●This is in keeping with the top
line goal on PAGE 1 of the
Comprehensive Plan.
●The requested road has no
impact on bike and pedestrian
traffic and only seeks to reduce
travel time for vehicular
commuters.
●Commuters who live within
walking distance of the area
discussed.
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Connection to Industrial Commercial Area
●Applicant has provided a plan and
chart of distances and times for travel
both on foot and by car.
●Here shown from an origin at the
center of the development travelling by
car and foot to the center of the IC
land.
●Walking Distance 2400 Feet
●Driving Distance 4300 Feet
●Estimated Walk Time: 8.7 Minutes
●Estimated Drive Time 3.3 Minutes
●Driving Speed 21.7 feet per second
●Reduction in Drive Time if IC
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Connection to Industrial Commercial Area
●Road construction and engineering issues that run contrary to requirements of Section 15.12
●Road grade and banks that result in challenging development sites.
●Removal of strong landscape buffer proposed in accordance with Section 13.06
●Connection of incompatible uses with large industrial street and traffic intersecting a small
residential neighborhood.
●Reduced safety of Legacy Farm Avenue for resident families
●Bifurcation of wildlife connection corridor
●Vehicle centered design that increases impervious surface in an impaired watershed
●Sole benefit of reducing commuter vehicular travel times by 87 seconds from proposed
alternate route on collector and arterial roadways designed and with capacity for all travel as
demonstrated in the Project TIA.
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Pavement Marking Plans
●As evidenced by this discussion the road network required board input before being
fully refined, engineered and planned.
●With that feedback and at final plat, or sooner if required, Applicant is happy to
provide these detailed plans and drawings.
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Industrial and Commercial Lots and Easements
•The access easement is provided per the
requirements of Section 15.12(3)(b) of
the regulations.
•The Applicant is not seeking a road in
this location, to preserve the integrity of
the tract of land in case a single large
scale user wished to develop all four
areas.
•This subdivision preserves that
opportunity as well as the opportunity
for smaller lot developments.
•A ROW would forever bifurcate this
land and severely limit its marketability
and constructability for large industrial
users.
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Industrial Commercial Lots and Easements
●A private easement provides for
the possible building orientation
illustrated above, where structure
is used to hide parking from view
of the homes and public parks
above.
●This configuration would be
prohibited by front yard parking
restrictions and building width
ratios if a City Road were
proposed as requested.
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Industrial and Commercial Roadway
●Applicant has proposed a compliant subdivision under the zoning regulations.
●This subdivision includes the construction of a roadway.
●The zoning regulations require certain roadway characteristics, which we are happy to meet,
without waiver as directed.
●The Applicant would be happy to have a time restriction placed on constructing the road, and
would request five years from final plat at which point the approval to build the road would
expire if not built.
●Applicant is seeking approval of this subdivision and the roadway designed and intends to
construct it.
●This construction is creating an official map connection.
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Legacy Farm Road Extension
●In conjunction with the addition of
the alley configuration on Lot 31
applicant created this road in the
current configuration to reduce lot
coverage.
●Adding 5’ of road width would increase lot coverage about 2000 square feet and the project is
currently over (and looking for ways to reduce coverage).
●Applicant would suggest that two opportunities exist to accommodate both issues.
●Removal of requirement for a sidewalk and construction of the sidewalk at a future date should
the roadway be extended as anticipated to neighboring commercial. This would be when the
roadway is in City ownership and coverage limitations would not apply.
●Leave roadway and sidewalk in current configuration and position homes to allow for future
road widening should a connection ever occur.
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O’Brien Farm Road East
●Applicant has located the entire cul-de-sac in
the R1 District as required by the regulations.
●Zoning plan at left shows the R1 in red. The
commercial 1 Limited Retail is shown in purple.
●Applicant has placed this road to allow for it to
be used on both sides, preserving the efficiency
of construction and making use of R1 land
where larger developments are prohibited.
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O’Brien Farm Road East
●Applicant has provided a proposal for
a large city park, a large playground
and a fully enclosed dog park to be
constructed by Applicant for the
benefit of the public at the end of this
street.
●Applicant considers this a feature and
a destination and the road leads to it,
not past it.
●In response to the feedback of a
potential and now-unknown need for
connection to Legacy Farm, Applicant
has provided space and would
consider providing a ROW if helpful.
●Environmental and other resources
prohibit extension of this road beyond
where shown, or where the easement
is provided.
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O’Brien Farm Road East
●Applicant has provided a concept of a potential
layout for the commercial lots.
●Applicant is happy to provide additional
information on what is sketched.
●Applicant is happy to provide information that is
helpful in the Board making its decision but the
roadway standards of the regulations are the
guide.
●Any future projects could of course modify the
permitted roadway to include more parking if
necessary
●To proceed with investment in the park and
homes on this road some road must be approved
for construction and be built.
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O’Brien Farm Road East
●Applicant has provided
architecture and digital
renderings for homes
proposed on O’Brien Farm
Road East.
●Homes are identical to those
proposed in Hillside and
which were approved as the
transitionary home from the
Hillside residential to the
Hillside multi-family areas of
Phase I.
●Three-Story townhomes are
used again here as that
transitional element.
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O’Brien Farm Road East Planned Homes
●Street Presence
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O’Brien Farm Road East Planned Homes
●Phase I has built this exact Townhome with the exact retaining wall and rear yard condition planned for Eastview.
●The stone walls accent the yards and create privacy, they have been landscaped and have been a feature.
●We saw significant increase in demand for homes that had the taller wall and more privacy.
●We do not feel that the proximity or grading is problematic as this product type has seen significant market absorption
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O’Brien Farm Road East Amenity Phasing
●Staff has requested that Applicant work with the Board to determine appropriate phasing for
the project (Comment 1).
●Applicant is happy to work with the Board on specific proposals for timing of construction of
amenities as stated above.
●Depending on phase timing and the approvals issued by the Board, the specific restriction
requested here (Comment 19) may or may not be acceptable or necessary.
●Applicant would suggest this specific item be discussed in the broader context of phasing and
amenity construction.
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