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Mr. Page explained he was looking at the potential subdivision for lot #1
and the potential subdivision of the back portion, and in the event that
the back lot might be sold the Planning Commission should make clear that
there should be a certain type of access.
Mr. Poger said the right of way should be reserved even if they did not
intend to use it.
The motion by Mr. Poger was voted unanimously for approval.
DesLauriers Tennis Facility, Dorset Street# Continued Site Plan Review
Mr. Page announced this had been withdrawn.
Burlington Savings Bank Drive-in Facility, Shelburne Road, Site Plan Review
James Lamphere, architect for the. Burlington Savings Bank, made a presenta-
tion based on a packet of material of which copies had been given to the
Commission members.
A Site Plan was displayed on which Mr. Lamphere indicated the boundaries
of the property which consists of two lots, the entrance, the landscaping,
both existing and planned, the stone wall to be built, and a floor plan of
the proposed building. He stated the utilities are there, the water to come
in from Shelburne Road, the storm sewer would go out into an existing system,
the sanitary sewer would be tied into the existing line which presently
handles one of the houses on the property. The setback from Shelburne Road
is 75 feet and they would be 22 feet from the back property line. He indi-
cated the existing trees to be preserved and those which will have to be
• removed. The new trees to be planted will be 6 feet high and they will try
to keep them from getting too high to avoid breaking up the visual impact
of the building. Some of the trees to be planted by the wall will be cubs
for color in the spring. The existing hedges are to be retained, and they
will maintain Mrs. Farnham's hedge by clipping once a year. Construction is
to begin in April, with landscaping planting s to take place in the fall.
The estimated cost of landscaping is $4,200, and the contractor will be
prepared to post a bond before the building permit is issued.
Under the zoning requirements, their size of 1400 square feet would require
7 parking spaces; they will have 10 spaces.
Regarding traffic, they had made studies as outlined on page 1 of his sub-
mitted material. He noted the difference in volume between a savings bank
and a commercial bank, saying this bank would have about 45% the volume of a
commercial bank such as the Merchants Bank across the street.
Regarding traffic circulation, Mr. Lamphere said the only area where there
is any question is the out -lane on to Brewer Parkway, but they expect the
maximum cars they would get would be 20, so there would be plenty of capacity.
Referring to Mr. Szymanski's memo of December loth, Mr. Lamphere said the
sidewalk would be no problem, but the connecting road is something they
really would not want to see happen.
Mr. Page said he had talked with Mr. Szymanski about this and told him there
would be a problem with the outbound capacity of Brewer Parkway and connect-
ing the properties could have an impact on that, and Mr. Szymanski had agreed
it would not be essential to require that. Mr. Page said he went down and
counted the traffic last Friday evening arriving at the Merchants Bank at
the same intersection, the other side of Shelburne Road, and had also called
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several bank managers. He said he recognized there is a difference between
the two kinds of banks and would just repeat what Mr. Lamphere said. There
is plemty of capacity and no problem for someone approaching from the south
or west, plenty of capacity for someone coming down to make a left turn into
Brewer Parkway. The only potential problem would be the capacity of Brewer
Parkway and that doesn't seem to be a problem, as far as he could see.
Mr. Lamphere referred again to Mr. Ward's memo, saying they would agree to
maintain the hedges during construction; also item #5 requiring approval of
the driveways is necessary because they need two curb cuts.
Mr. Poger noted that the lights that control the entrance to Brewer Parkway
also control the entrance to the shopping center, so traffic would have the
same amount of time to enter for the bank as they would have for entering
the .shopping center.N
Mr. Page said the s° v is about 11 seconds; `Js seconds in a: �ct-6 ! There
might be the possibility of changing the signal. A car would have the same
amount of green time as a car entering the center. There is no conflict with
the capacity for making a left turn into Brewer Parkway, but in going out you
would be contending with everybody coming out of K-Mart. There is a right
turn on red allowed here.
Mr. Ewing asked if there would be any problem about an entrance being only
50 feet from Shelburne Road.
Mr. Lamphere explained that would be a direct entrance because they have
space for at least 11 cars; the most that would 'be likely to be backed up
would be two cars.
Mr. Page felt at the busiest hour most of the customers would be coming
from the north or straight across from the shopping center; 75% from the
north, 25% from the south.
Mr. Poger said he recognized the Zoning Board's feeling that this area is
commercial along Shelburne Road when they granted the use variance; he
did not think it was unreasonable; but this is not a matter of rezoning
by reaching into a residential neighborhood. But ,just as a general comment,
he said he would like the Zoning Board to be as careful as they were here
that in the future use variances are not encroaching into residential areas.
Mr. Levesque said he thought they did a good job in utilizing this property,
that it is very compatible.
Mr. Poger said drive-in banks are one of the things talked about in Mr.
Morency's high traffic research and he would think this one was not a
particular problem.
Mr. Morency agreed, saying it goes from a signalized intersection and the
curb cut is not on Shelburne Road.
Mr. Schuele brought up the matter of traffic on Saturday mornings at the
Merchants Bank on White Street, saying cars were out into the street and
even across both lanes of traffic.
Mr. Ewing said this was the only bank open on Saturday morning and Mr. Pcgar
said the capacity of this Burlington Savings branch was much more than at
the Merchants on White Street. Mr. Poger added that check cashing is more
normally done at commercial banks than at savings banks.
Mr. Levesque referred to a petition signed by several neighbors on Brewer
Parkway expressing their appreciation for preserving the residential
character of the neighborhood.
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Mr. Poger moved that the Planning Commission approve the Site Plan for
Burlington Savings —Bank with the followin_stipulations: 1 the curb cut
on Shelburne Road is to be closed;_2j the plantings to be as outlined;
sufficient bond be posted to cover the landscaping and the Slosi
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the curb cut, and a bonder if necessary, for the sidewalk and the curb.
Seconded by Mr. Woolery and voted unanimously for approval.
Ramada Inn, Williston Road -- continued Site Plan Review
Mr. Gordon Woods said this was the proposed addition of 44 rooms to the
back of the Ramada Inn. He indicated on the plan the proposed evergreen
type of hedge, the plantings around the transformers and around the front
of 5 clusters approximately 14 feet in diameter, 7 plantings in a cluster,
These are to be of mugho pine.
Reference was made to #3 in Mr. Page's memo of December loth, and Mr.
Samuelson said something should be able to be worked out on that.
Mr. Poger said most traffic comes from the Interstate and Dorset Street
and for that traffic flow it would make sense to have one way in and one
way out. However, what percentage comes the other way from Williston Road
and the more easterly direction, and what would make sense for a left turn.
Mr. Page said about 20 to 30% entered from the east at the Holiday Inn.
Mr. Poger asked, when signalization goes in, would it be the best place for
both exit and entrance from the east, and would special provision be made
for a left turn later at that point for cars coming from the east.
Mr. Page said his thinking would be that for the interim right now it
• would be safer and more feasible for someone leaving the inn to get back
to the Interstate to use the easterly curb cut. In the future there might
be a signal there. The majority are right turns originating from the Inter-
state and a smaller fraction from the east.
Mr. Poger suggested making the easterly both exit and entrance and the more
westerly for entrance only.
Mr. Page said he didn't feel all that strongly about this. It could be by
City adoption.
Mr. Corologos said the traffic flow seems to be that ways. they come in at
the westerly and go out the easterly.
Mr. Poger asked if it would make sense to ask for a sign at the appropriate
place saying EXIT ONLY at the westerly, to make that clear. He indicated
on the site plan what he meant.
The cost of the landscaping was then discussed. Mr. Samuelson asked the
Planning Commission to waive some of the requirement, saying they are
putting in a great deal and doing all the planting they had been asked to
do in front and putting in the hedge on the Mary Street side, and planting
shrubs. He said they didn't know where to put any more.
Mr. Page said he would concur with Mr. Ward's recommendation that the land-
scaping be in the full amount.
Mr. Poger suggested larger plantings in the areas they talked about, or
putting in more additional plantings. Otherwise there is no problem. He
noted the sewer easement is to be shown on the plan.
Mr. Samuelson asked for more consideration from the Commission, asking
where are they going to put in the other $1500 worth. just for the sake of
planting -- where. It is a waste of money. If the Commission wishes them
�• to plant, they will plant, but the requirement being made is unreasonable.
The Commission, he said, has the authority in its own regulations to waive to
what is reasonable. He indicated the proposed plantings on the drawing.
saying they even went so far as to put some up around the barn, and asked
where else could they put $1500 more planting other than breaking up the
asphalt.