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Home My WebLink AboutSP-86-0000 - Supplemental - 0911 Dorset StreetFITZPATRICK-LLEWELLYN INCORPORATED Engineering and Planning Services The Kiln • 15 Brickyard Road • Essex Junction • Vermont • 05452 • (802) 878-3000 5 November 1985 Ms. Jane S. B. Lafleur City Planner City of South Burlington 575 Dorset Street South Burlington, Vermont 05401 RE: Indian Creek Revised Cluster FILE: 8486 Dear Ms. Lafleur: On behalf of our Client, and pursuant to our telephone conversation today, we are formally asking that the continuation of the 24 September hearing, scheduled for 12 November 1985, be rescheduled for 10 December 1985. The Project, consisting of the proposed relocation of "Cluster 1" from the vicinity of Dorset Street to a more central area of the development, is still undergoing layout revisions. During the September hearing there were some concerns voiced with the proposed layout and building elevations. These concepts are being worked on, and our Client would like to feel confident all, if not most, of these concerns are settled before submitting a revised layout for Cluster 1. Also, there appears to be some confusion as to the actual "plateau" the proposed revision has "reached" during this review process. Originally, our Client was merely looking for an approval of the concept involved with relocating Cluster 1, before investing large amounts of money in refined site and construction drawings. Of course, the Commission's decision on the concept of moving the Cluster had to be assisted by a preliminary layout , which was submitted before the September hearing. However, it seems that somehow the energies of the Commission were deflected on to the more nitty-gritty details of the layout, such as fire access and elevations of buildings, rather than focusing on the concept of whether or not our Client should even pursue in detail the relocation of the Cluster. We fully appreciate that it's nearly impossible to have a conceptual review of relocating the Cluster without considering the engineering plans, but possibly an approval our Client seeks at this point could be couched in terms of "the idea is fine, but you must still show us how the details will work before final approval can be granted". This would at least provide the incentive for returning to the drawing boards and fine-tuning the engineering plans. Design e Inspection • Studies • Permitting Ms. Jane S.B. Lafleur FILE: 8486 5 November 1985 Page Two The plan to be submitted for the 10 December meeting will not be a "final" engineering plan, but will be a different preliminary layout, designed to accommodate the concerns of the fire chief and others. We and our Client hope that at the 10 December meeting the Commission will be able to give us more direction on whether or not they will permit the Cluster to be relocated to the area proposed, as well as commenting on the specifics of the layout. We'll make an effort, before the meeting, to make sure we've had a chance to meet with the fire chief. Should you have any questions on the foregoing, please don't hesitate to call me or Mr. Wooster. Again, thanks for your time taken to discuss this Project. Sincerely, FITZPATRICK-LLE L NCORPORATED Douglas R. FitzPatrick, P.E. cc Mr. Wooster DRF:amo FITZPATRICK-LLEWELLYN INCORPORATED Engineering and Planning Services June 17, 1986 Douglas Fitzpatrick Fitzpatrick -Llewellyn Associates 15 Brickyard Road Essex Junction, Vermont 05452 Re: Indian Creek, Revised Cluster One (A.K.A. Ridgewood Estates, Phase III) Dear Doug: This serves to confirm that the minor revision to cluster one has been approved administratively by this office. (Plans last revised 5/86 stamp dated 5/30/86). This modification consists of changing the 10 unit structure originally approved for the site to one 4-unit and one 6-unit building plus detached garages. The landscaping plan prepared by David Raphael has also been approved. These plans have also been reviewed and approved by Fire Chief James Goddette and City Manager/Engineer William J. Szymanski. Sincerely, Jane B. Lafleur, City Planner JBL/mcp cc: John Caulo Katherine Vose MCNI�',IL,, MURIZAY & SORRELL, INC. ATTORNEYS AT LAW 271 SOUTH UNION STREET BURLINGTON, VERMONT 05401 JOSEPH C. MCNEIL (1919 - 1978) JOSEPH E. MCNEIL FRANCIS X. MURRAY WILLIAM H. SORRELL ROBERT E. FLETCHER. JR. MARSHA SMITH MEEKINS JOHN T. LEDDY NANCY GOSS SHEAHAN HAND DELIVERED April 14, 1986 Raymond S. Stewart Assistant District Coordinator District Environmental Commission #4 111 West Street Essex Jct., VT 05452 TELEPHONE 863 4531 AREA CODE 802 Re: Request for Extension of Construction Completion Date Permit #4C0161-7 Vermont Federal Bank, FSB c/o Sidel & Associates Box 115 Waitsfield, VT 05673 Dear Mr. Stewart: As you know, I represent Ridgewood Homeowners in this matter. Regarding your March, 1986 memorandum, please accept this as my clients' request that you hold a hearing on the above -referenced request. Respectfully, Francis X. Murray FXM :1 km cc: Peter Sidel Associates APR 14 1986 t-47uutil +16urlitigtou _Rire Department 575 Burset Street Auuttl 4Burtingtnn, Vermunt 1154111 To; South Burlington Planning Commission FROM CHIEF JAMES W. GODDETTE SR. RE: PLANNING MEETING FOR TUESDAY DECEMBER 1O,198S AGENDA ITEMS #1. Indian Creek Development, 611, OFFICE OF JAMES W. GODDETTE, SR. CHIEF 863-6455 Plan have been reviewed by the fire department on the final cluster elated Dec.3,8S and at this time I am pleased to inform you that we do not see a problem for emergency equipment. #2. East-O-Lake Inn Property; Plans have been reviewed by this department and over all we do not see a problem for emergency equipment but two (2) hrdrants are required on the property at a location set by the fire department. #3. Wesco Mini -Mart Williston; I am pleased to inform you that there is not a problem for emergency equipment on this project. #4. Foxcraft ( Cardinal Woods Ext. ) Corections have been made and at this time I do not see a problem with this project. December 6, 1985 Stewart Wooster Vermont Federal Bank 5 Burlington Square Burlington, Vermont 05401 Re: Indian Creek Sketch Plan Dear Mr. Wooster: Enclosed are the agenda and our memos to the Planning Commission regarding your sketch plan. Please be sure someone is present to represent your application. Sincerely, Jane B. Lafleur, City Planner JBL/mcp Encls cc: Douglas Fitzpatrick 4w 00 rip �,� - -- - ------ ......... LEGEND CITY OF SOUTH BURLINGTON Subdivision Application - SKETCH PLAN 1) Name, address, and phone number of: a. Owner of record Y W"C>w 0SN-14-0 \ Co - C0 ao a b. Applicant L '��K l? � �c • Le 5 8 - (-z c. C 2) Purpose, location, and nature of subdivision or development, including number of lots, units, or parcels and proposed use(s). 3) Applicant's legal interest in the property (fee simple, option, etc) 1 4) Names of owners of record of all contiguous properties 5) Type of existing or proposed encumbranc s on property such as easements, covenants, leases, rights of way, etc. �Ss� Fa 6) Proposed extension, relocation, or modification of municipal facilities such as sanitary sewer, water supply, streets, storm drainage, etc. 7) Describe any previous actions taken by the Zoning Board of Adjustment or by the South Burlington Planning Commission which affect the proposed.sub- division, and include\ the dates of such \actions: 8) Submit four copies of a sketch plan showing the following information: 1) Name of owners of record of contiguous properties. 2) Boundaries and area of: (a) all contiguous land belonging to owner of record. and (b) proposed subdivision. 3) Existing and proposed layout of property lines; type and location of existing and proposed restrictions on land, such as easements and cove- nants. 4) Type of, location, and approximate size of existing and proposed streets, utilities, and open space. 5) Date, true north arrow and scale (numerical and graphic). 6) Location map, showing relation of proposed subdivision to adjacent property and surrounding area. (Signatu contact person date FITZPATRICK-LLEWELLYN INCORPORATED Engineering & Planning Services The Kiln - 15 Brickyard Road ESSEX JUNCTION, VERMONT 05452 (802) 878-3000 TO LEEMEQ OF MUSO MU DATE JOB NO. ATTENTION RE: WE ARE SENDING YOUAttached ❑ Under separate cover via`s rt�_�_the following items: ❑ Shop drawings Prints ❑ Plans ❑l Samples ❑ Specifications ❑ Copy of letter ❑ Change order ❑ COPIES DATE NO. DESCRIPTION THESE ARE TRANSMITTED as checked below: ❑ For approval ❑ Approved as submitted ❑ For your use ❑ Approved as noted ❑ As requested ❑ Returned for co ctior J� For review and comment ❑ FOR BIDS DUE 19 REMARKS cNh,_4 f ❑ Resubmit copies for approval ❑ Submit copies for distribution ❑ Return corrected prints ❑ PRINTS RETURNED AFTER LOAN TO US !�+YA •► ^ _ !\ T7 ,\ 412 l 9Z_Q ,— s— in 4 \ - Gl N -vlk e 4t R1_ 1L-4Z N , Kelm PRODUCT 240-3 eBs Inc., G.IDn, M— 01471. SIG N E>9;,,;a If enclosures are not as noted, kindly notify us at PLANNING COMMISSION 17 DECEMBER 1985 The South Burlington Planning Commission held a Regular Meeting on Tuesday, 17 December 1985, at 7:30 pm, in the Conference Room, City Hall, 575 Dorset Street. Members Present Mary -Barbara Maher, Chairman; Judith Hurd, John Belter, John Dooley, Peter Jacob, William Burgess Others Present Jane Bechtel Lafleur, City Planner; Doug Fitzpatrick, John Rider, Valerie Rider, Seth Barovick, Myra Barovick, Carl Lisman, William Schuele, Lowell Krassnes, Sid Poger, The Other Paper; Rick Carbin, Ottaquechee Land Trust; Amy Jestes , State Agriculture Department Continue sketch plan discussion of the relocation of Cluster One of Indian Creek condominiums Mr. Burgess and Mr. Dooley, who revisited the site, felt that the aesthetics were slightly better with the new location but were not impressed one way or the other. Mr. Rider again stressed the verbal agreement made at the time Ridgewood gave up its rights to develop the property in question. Mr. Barovick added that in the original plan, single family res- idences were planned for that location, not condos. He added that most of the 5 or 6 residences in his row have finished ground floors and would be looking into someone else's windows. He said it would be equally bad for the buyers. Another Ridgewood owner indicated she had bought her property less than a year ago with the understanding that nothing would be built in that area with the possible exception of a road. She was strongly motivated to have a view to one side since the other side of her house faces a parking lot. She is also concerned for the wild life in the area. A polling of members indicated that if Indian Creek were to present the plan to the Commission, it might pass. Discussion of development policies for the Southeast Quadrant including a critique of present zoning regulations, the 1985 Comprehensive Plan recommendations and other planning tools, specifically transfer of development rights Mrs. Lafleur introduced Rick Carbin of the Ottaquechee Land Trust. Mr. Carbin explained that the Trust is a private, non-profit land conservation group involved in protection of forest and agricultural lands. Their aim is to find fair ways of protecting land. Since 1980, they have completed 70 individual projects resulting in the protection of 20,000 acres throughout the state. The are currently working on over 200 projects. The unique quality they bring to the � 3 C9 PLANNING COMMISSION 10 DECEMBER 1985 PAGE 3 regarding traffic. She noted that the proposed use exceeds the overlay standards for Zone 1 which would allow 11.4 trips during one peak hour. This use ranges between 12 and 91. Mrs. Maher said she felt this stretch of road was highly dangerous and she has noted traffic backed up as far as Burger King. Mr. Simendinger noted that Cumberland Farms is a price cutter which develops a high volume business. They have asked for a one-year supply with Chevron on the basis that they can buy oil from cheaper from the Arabs. He sug- gested that if Cumberland Farms does take over the location, traffic will be generated by the current approved service station use. Mrs. Lafleur noted that if the Commission chose to waive the traffic overlay, there are very strict criteria: the planned development must cover 4 acres, they must change or reduce the number of curb cuts or the level of service at the intersection must be Level C. She said these did not seem to apply in this case. Mrs. Maher then polled members as to whether they would waive the traffic overlay. The concenses was 4-2 against waiving. Mr. Dooley then moved that the Planning Commission deny the site plan application of Wesco for conversion of existing service station to a mini -mart with gas pumps located at 1118 Williston Road. Mr. Burgess seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. y Consider sketch plan application of Vermont Federal Bank for relocation of Cluster 1 of Indian Creek Condos located at 911 Dorset Street. Mr. Fitzpatrick explained that the original plan was too strung out for the Fire Chief, so they have put the units to be relocated in a circular pattern. He indicated the land where the units were previously planned will be left as is now. Mr. Dooley asked why that site was not appropriate for the units being moved. Mr. Fitzpatrick said because of the size and the steep drop off. It had originally been set up as 1 large structure with 10 units. Parking was a little awkward and the feeling was that it would be best to leave that area open and not to see the project until you got down the hill. Mr. Rider of Ridgewood said they have a lower level which they use as living space and which would be lower than the proposed units•. He felt the plan was not as advertised when the original proposal came up. Dr. Barovick said they bought their property in 1984, and the plat plan was that this site was to be open land. They bought their unit on that basis. Carl Lisman, representing the residents, said that when a developer submits a plan, it has some binding nature. The people at Ridgewood had an expectancy when they bought their units that the land across the pond PLANNING COMMISSION 10 DECEMBER 1985 PAGE 4 would be as shown on the plans with that land open. With the present plan, this would not be so. Mrs. Maher asked if Mr. Lisman was saying there can be no revisions to plans. Mr. Lisman said he wasn't, but the aesthetic question was considered by the Commission in the original plans and there were no problems. Mrs. Maher said she has walked the land and feels the new location is vastly superior. Mr. Dooley said he would like to revisit the site and look again. Mrs. Hurd said she is bothered by the situation. She said she is more opposed to the old plan than in favor of the new. Mr. Jacob said he would leave it as is. Mr. Burgess said he saw no reason to move the buildings. Mr. Belter said he felt it would look better from Dorset St. to move,the units but was bothered by the legal situation. Members agreed to reconsider the request at the meeting of 17 December after Al members have had a chance to revisit the site. 6-Consider sketch plan application of Lakewood Associates for the construction of 38,400 sq. ft of office space in 5 buildings and coversion of existing building to a 300-seat restaurant/conference facility located at 1233 Shelburne Road (former East-O-Lake Inn) Mr. Allen indicated that in response to conversations with the City Planner, they have eliminated the conference center and dropped the total sq. footage to 37,000. This would also eliminate some parking. He felt their proposal was an appropriate use of the property. The Inn would be the central focus; it would be renovated keeping the exterior facade. The 5 office buildings would blend in with the area. The hope to attract new high -profile companies looking for a pleasant work environment. All buildings would be designed to reflect the architecture of the original property and would be appealing from the road. Landscaping would be pre- served and enhanced and they would keep as many tall trees as possible. They have secured an alternate access to the property onto Holmes Road which would cause far fewer traffic problems than Shelburne Rd. They presented figures which showed that they would fall within the allowable traffic figures. They stressed that they felt the 2 used (office and restaurant) were as compatible as the restaurant/hotel use now. Mrs. Maher asked how cars would be encouraged to exit onto Holmes Road. Mr. Allen said there would be signs. Mrs. Lafleur recommended that be the only exit. Mrs. Lafleur then indicated that it was her feeling that this C is a pCD, hr-t a site plan and that the applicant would fall under in the level of service criteria which is being computerized now. Mr. Brush said he didn't see how adding another 24 cars or so.put them into another level of service. Mrs. Lafleur UP No o- -k,nA w 'is d, to Nroal\4k r -\� ew �Yv is Q. ' .^ u OL M ,�D-F -�7,roc ?W, - GUn. prc `Qstdi.� . December 10, 1985 agenda items December 6, 1985 Page 2 Traffic: The overlay zone allows 11.4 trips during the peak hour for this small lot. The attached traffic study, prepared by North County Planning estimates 60 to 100 trips during the peak hour. The applicant requests a vote from the Commission on this feature before he revises the plan to make other improvements. Access: There are two existing 40 foot curb cuts. These exceed our 36 foot standard. The property also provides another access to the Windjammer, although this is not shown on the plan. Circulation: Most of the lot is paved providing unlimited circulation. Parking: The use requires seven spaces. Twenty four are shown. Given the excessive parking and lot coverage (85% plus) I would suggest the lot be brought into conformance by landscaping at least 30% of the lot. Landscaping: In addition to removing pavement and increasing land- scaped/grassed and seeded areas, at least $360 in new plantings is required. A plan will be required. The front yard coverage should be brought closer to conformance although it is difficult with two curb cuts and the pump islands. At the very least, the eastern and western corners near Williston Road should be seeded after removing pavement. The rear of the property is used for storage of old Texaco signs. This should be cleaned up. Other: See Goddette's and Szymanski's comments. 5)` INDIAN CREEK ''CLUSTER ONE RELOCATION This sketch plan is for the relocation of Cluster One from the left side of the entrance drive near Dorset Street to a location within the development. The applicant is requesting conceptual sketch plan approval only, before he invests in detailed engineering drawings. The issues are as follows: Parking: These ten units require 22 parking spaces. The plan shows 23. Landscaping: Landscaping details must be submitted prior to final plat equal to 3% of the construction cost. Roads: A private road maintenance waiver must be recorded with the City Clerk prior to permit. December 10, 1985 agenda items December 6, 1985 Page 3 RV Area: The recreational vehicle area must be relocated. Other: The neighbors in Ridgewood are concerned about this location since it will be built in a vacant field. A site visit will prove that while the buildings will be visible to Ridgewood, they should not be any higher in elevation than the Ridgewood buildings. I suggest all members of the Commission visit the site and make your own judgement as to the appropriateness of the approved location (just beyond the mailboxes) versus this proposed location within the development. (see enclosed map) 6) LAKEWOOD ASSOCIATES, INC., 1233 SHELBURNE ROAD The applicant is proposing a new plan for the East-O-Lake Inn property. This will be classified as a Planned Commercial Development consisting of 38,400 square feet of office space in five buildings and a 300 seat restaurant/conference facility. The purpose of this sketch plan review is to discuss the issues that will be of concern to the Commission and give conceptual approval/disapproval to the applicant. Traffic: As a Planned Commercial Development the applicant is required to meet the traffic standards stated in section 11.504. This includes a level of service C at designated intersections. I suggest the applicant prepare a study indicating the level of service at Holmes Road and Imperial Drive. We should then have Craig Leiner evaluate it. The overlay zone (Zone 2) permits 100 trips during the peak hour for this property. This use projects 151 to 181 trips using ITE data or 130 to 145 trips if the conference facility is removed. The previous hotel plan would have created 89 to 109 trips. The applicant is proposing a connection to Holmes Road through the back of the VW property. I question whether it will be used unless it is marked as the sole exit. In addition, Holmes Road does not presently meet the warrants for a traffic signal. An increase in traffic may help it to meet the warrants and make a Holmes Road connection more advantageous but it does not seem to be very helpful now. A study could be done to see whether the additional traffic would warrant a traffic signal. Parking: The ordinance requires 240 spaces; 244 are shown. M E M O R A N D U M To: South Burlington Planning Commission From: William J. Szymanski, City Manager Re: December 10, 1985 agenda items Date: 12/6/85 3) FOXCROFT, CARDINAL WOODS, PHASE II 1. Curbs shall be continuous and depressed including drives to condo units. This controls runoff, simplifies construction and makes it easier to construct sidewalks in the future. 2. All sidewalks to be continuous across all drives including drives to future condos. 3. Water Department must review watermain layout. 4) WESCO, INC., 1118 WILLISTON ROAD 1. Existing sidewalk at entrances shall remain. Plan shows sidewalk removed. 2. The method of handling storm runoff should be shown. 3. Planting along each side should be protected by a curb. 4. There exists a driveway along back line connecting to Econolodge parking lot. This connection should remain and kept open. 5) INDIAN CREEK CONDOMINIUMS,' CLUSTER 1 REVISED 1. Sewer manholes shall all be located within road, driveway or parking areas so they are readily accessible by mobil clean- ing equipment at all times. 2. Water Department must review water main layout. 6) LAKEWOOD DEVELOPMENT, SHELBURNE ROAD 1. There is a large undeveloped parcel (former Marsh property) now Merrill) across Shelburne Road. I would recommend that this property have a single road opening as close to the northerly line as possible so that it would be opposite the vacant parcel. If the volume of traffic justifies traffic signals, the installation of these signals will be simplified and serve both parcels. NA �RcQ One Oo�� (Drxx— —,:W MAN vv"irr., 9/23/85 JBL MOTION OF APPROVAL That the South Burlington Planning Commission approve the revised final plat of Vermont Federal Bank for Indian Creek for the re- location of Cluster one from south of the entrance drive to a location south of Cluster 3 as depicted on two plans entitled "Indian Creek, overall site plan" and "Indian Creek Condominiums, Cluster 1 revised" prepardd by Fitzpatrick -Llewellyn, stamp dated 9/3/85 with the following stipulations: 1) The stipulations of the original approval shall remain in effect. 2) The recreational vehicle location shall be relocated and approved by the City Planner prior to permit. 3) The revised final plat shall be recorded within 90 days. 1) C H'i Ol' SOUVII BURLIWOlUN REVISED Subdivision Application - 1'INIU, PLI'1'/SITE PLAN Name of Applicant Vermont Federal Bank 2) Name of Sulxlivision Indian Creek Condominiums 3) Indicate any changes to name, address, or phone nwii.)er of owner of record, applicant, contact person, engineer, surveyor,• attorney or plat designer since preliminary plat application: ' n/a A) Indicate any changes to the subdivision, such as nwi.)er of lots or units, property lines, applicant's legal interest in the property, or developwntal tiiietable, since preliminary plat ahhlication:Applicant wishes to relocate Cluster #1 from easterly extreme of site to westerly extreme of site, and_._______.___... use a different building configuration. 5) Submit four copies of a final set of plans cullsisting of a final plat plu:; engineering drawings and containing all information requirOd urxler section 20:.1 of the sulxiivision regulcItions for a minor sulxt.ivision and urwler suction 209.1(a) for a ❑ujor sulxlivision. G) Submit two draft copies o1: all legal iiocununts reyuirelt under -suction 202..1 (11) and (12) of the sutx4vision tequlations for .a miixx 'sul.xlivision and under section 204.1(1)) for a nvijov sulxlivision. 3 September 1985 (Signature) applicant _ n Date PLANNING COMMISSION 24 SEPTEMBER 1985 PAGE 3 be included in appropriate legal documents approved 1?y the City Attorney and recorded with the City Clerk prior to permit. a, 4. A revised final plat shall be recorded With the City Clerk within 90 days. Mr. Belter seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. PUBLIC HEARING: Revised final plat of Vermont Federal Bank for Indian Creek for the relocation of Cluster — luster_ m"_ location on the south side of the entrance drive near Dorset St. to a location within the development south of Cluster 1 Mr. Fitzpatrick said the original location is not compatible with the condo project. Mr. Jacob said he received call from people in Ridgewood who do not like the proposed change as they had been told this area would remain open. Mrs. Hurd said she agreed with this. Other members did not object on that basis. Mr. Fitzpatrick said they wanted to get the massive structure away from the entrance. Mrs. Lafleur said she though the new location was better because it was part of the character of Indian Creek that it couldn't be seen from the road. Mr. Rider of Ridgewood said that when Vermont Federal took over, Ridgewood gave up the right to building lots with the understanding that nothing would be built in this area. Mr. Robenstein said he wouldn`t like to see houses on the high spot but he thought the decision should be based on what was best environmentally. He said that landscaping has not been done well on the site at present nor has grading and he would like to see some real teeth in a landscaping plan. There is nothing around the storage areas. Drainage is also very poor. Members agreed they would like to view the area before making a decision. Mr. Dooley moved that the Hearing be continued. Mr. Burgess seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. (o, Site Plan application of Mark Hill Investments Inc., for addition to existing building and construct on of a new building for 26,775 total sg ft for automot ve marine parts, repair, sales & service at 5 Green Mounter n Drive Mr. Teschmacher explained the lot is adjacent to Willy Racine and that all building spaces would be leased. Parking is higher than required and they have ZBA approval as a con- 9/23/85 JBL MOTION OF APPROVAL That the South Burlington Planning Commission approve the revised final plat of Vermont Federal Bank for Indian Creek for the re- location of Cluster one from south of the entrance drive to a location south of Cluster 3 as depicted on two plans entitled "Indian Creek, overall site plan" and "Indian Creek Condominiums, Cluster 1 revised" prepardd by Fitzpatrick -Llewellyn, stamp dated 9/3/85 with the following stipulations: 1) The stipulations of the original approval shall remain in effect. 2) The recreational vehicle location shall be relocated and approved by the City Planner prior to permit. 3) The revised final plat shall be recorded within 90 days. M E M O R A N D U M To: South Burlington Planning Commission From: William J. Szymanski, City Manager Re: September 24, 1985 agenda items Date: September 20, 1985 5) INDIAN CREEK I have no problems with this revision. I think it is a better layout. 6) MARK HILL INVESTMENTS, INC., GREEN MOUNTAIN DRIVE 1. Water service (lz') serving Meinoke expansion shall include two 45 bends instead of the four 90 bends. 2. New curb cut shall be constructed by removing the barrier curb and replacing it by pouring a depressed concrete curb. 3. I see no reason to relocate the catch basin at the new entrance drive. 7) NORDIC FORD, SHELBURNE ROAD 1. Plan dated 9/20/85 shows no control of increased storm water runoff except for the most easterly parcel. It is my understanding that this will be revised in consultation with Heindel and Noyes. 2. Six street access drives, especially three off Shelburne Road is excessive. I would like to see at least one of those three eliminated. 3. New curb openings shall be constructed with a concrete depressed curb. Existing curb openings, not to be used, shall be removed and a barrier curb installed. 8 and 9) ANDERSON, BROWN & BROWN, ETHAN ALLAN DRIVE 1. Site drainage plan shall be submitted for review. 11) PARK & FLY, WHITE STREET EXTENSION 1. White Street Extension is a public street. It is gravel and served one resident. To accommodate the proposed use the street should be upgraded to City standards including an adequate turn- around for City plow trucks. MEMORANDUM ---------------- TO: SOUTH BURLINGTON CITY PLANNING COMMISSION FROM: JAMES W. GODDETTE SR.,FIRE CHIEF RE: SEPTEMBER 24,1985 AGENDA ITEMS DATE: SEPTEMBER 20,1985 1. 4-Lot Sub -Division; Hinesburg Road Foxcraft Plans were reviewed by the fire department and at this time I do not see a problem for the fire service. 2. Park & Fly ; White Street Extention Plans reviewed and at this time I do not see a problem with giving fire protection. 3. Lot 93 Ethan Allen Drive; Anderson,Brown & Brown A meeting was held with Mr. Walter Adamson Thursday September 19,1985 to go over problems for the fire service. Mr. Adams understood them and agreed to make the corrections and hrqire a new plan by this meetir-.. If the expansion is also approved, one fire hydrant is needed as discussed with w. Adams. 4. Bartlett Property; Mr: Larkins; Plans reviewed and with the changes Mr. Larkins requesting is less problems the the condo's he wanted to construct. S. Bartlett Proper-ty; Cluster#3 Sub -Division �At this time_I do not see any problems with the sub -division for cluster #3. 6. Indian Creek Condos; Cluster#1 Plans reviewed by this department and more information is needed. There are problems with the design of the locations of the buildings which would give us problems with giving fire protection. FITZPATRICK-LLEWELLYN INCORPORATED Engineering & Planning Services The Kiln - 15 Brickyard Road ESSEX JUNCTION, VERMONT 05452 (802) 878-3000 TO G- a LEUVEN 0[F UMUSEMR& DATE JOB NO. (� ATTENTION RE:^ \ ft�4.' WE ARE SENDING YOU Attached ❑ Under separate cover via the following items: ❑ Shop drawings Prints ❑ Plans ❑ Samples ❑ Specifications ❑ Copy of letter ❑ Change order ❑ COPIES DATE NO. DESCRIPTION A THESE ARE TRANSMITTED as checked below: ❑ For approval ❑ For your use -- �As requested For review and comment ❑ FOR BIDS DUE REMARKS ❑ Approved as submitted ❑ Approved as noted ❑ Returned for corrections ❑ Resubmit copies for approval ❑ Submit copies for distribution ❑ Return corrected prints 19 ❑ PRINTS RETURNED AFTER LOAN TO US COPY PRWILICT 240-3 Inc. Q*k MM 01471. SIGNED: If enclosures are not as noted, kindly notify us at PUBLIC HEARING SOUTH BURLINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION The South Burlington Planning Commission will hold a public hearing at the South Burlington City Hall, Conference Room, 575 Dorset Street, South Burlington, Vermont on Tuesday, September 24 , 1985, at 7:30 P.M. to consider the following: 1 Revised Final plat application ot-Vermont Federal Bank for Indian Creek for the relocation of Cluster One from a location on the southern side of the entrance drive off of Dorset Street to a location within the development south of Cluster 3. Property is bounded on the north by Economou, on the east by Faith Methodist Church, Robenstein and Myers, on the south by the Ridgewood Development and on the west by Whittlesey, and is located at 911 Dorset Street. 2. Revised Final Plat of O'Brien Brothers Agency for a 4 lot sub- division of Cardinal Woods Extension containing multi -family condominiums and single-family dwellings. The property is bounded by Country Park Associates on the north, on the south by Chetti and I-89, on the west by Timberlane Association and Briarwood and on the east by Hinesburg Road. 3. Revised Final Plat application of LTH Associates for the Bartlett Property (Harbor H iahts) for a revision of 20 unit, in Cluster D to 7 single-family lots and revision of 10 unit cjuqt-t=r c� to 5 single-family lots Property is bounden on the north by K Reichelt_and Larkin, Shelburne Road on the west, K a i Lane. Bay Court and Ray Crest Drive_ tr) the east and Harbor View Road to the south. 4. Revised Final Plat application of LTH Associates for the sub- division of Cluster B into_2 lots of 1.7 acres and 2.2 acres, Property is bounded by land of J. Larkin, K. Reichelt to the north, ShelburneRoad to the west, Keari Lane and Bay Court and Bay Crest Drive to the east and Harbor View Road to the south. Copies of the applications are available for public inspection at the South Burlington City Hall. Mary -Barbara Maher Chairman, South Burlington Planning Commission September 7, 1985 November 22, 1985 Douglas Fitzpatrick Fitzpatrick --Llewellyn Associates 15 Brickyard Road Essex Junction, Vermont 05452 Re: Indian Creek Dear Doug: The Planning Commission agreed to consider your application for sketch plan approval on Tuesday, December 10, 1985. Please be sure to have revised plans to me by December 2, 1985. Sincerely, Jane B. Lafleur, City Planner JBL/mcp 1. Encl cc: Stuart Wooster PLANNING COMMISSION 12 NOVEMBER 1985 The South Burlington Planning Commission held a Regular Meeting on Tuesday, 12 November 1985, at 7:30 pm, in the Conference Room, City Hall, 575 Dorset Street. Members Present Mary -Barbara Maher, Chairman; Judith Hurd, John Belter, William Burgess, James McClary, Peter Jacob Others Present Jane Bechtel Lafleur, City Planner; Sidney Poger, The Other Paper; James Goddette, Fire Chief; Mike Dugan, Leonard Lamoureux, Ira Tate, William & Sherry Swett, Carol Gingras, Will Clark, Sam Bloomberg, Jeff, 1, Minutes of 22 October 1985 Members agreed to review the Minutes of 22 October at the next regular meeting. a. Consider request of Vermont discussion of the relocation Condominiums until December Federal Bank of Cluster 10, 1985 to postpone One of Indian Creek Mrs. Lafleur advised that the applicant feels they are not ready to submit the level of detail needed. They will want to go to sketch plan on December loth. Mr. Burgess moved that the Commission grant the request of Vermont Federal Bank to postpone discussion of the relocation on Cluster 1 of Indian Creek Condominiums until 10 December 1985 3. Public Hearing: for Final Plat application of Alexander Lewis and the City of South Burlington for the 2-lot subdivision at 1301 Shelburne Road (frontage on Holmes Road) Mrs. Maher reminded the Commission that one of the lots will be the proposed site of the new fire substation. Chief Goddette said they want equipment to exit onto Holmes Rd. Mr. Lewis requested a 30-foot road if he wants to build in the future. The station will be a 2-bay facility. They in- tend to put a light at the Holmes Rd./Shelburne Rd. inter- section to relieve driveways from exiting traffic. Mr. McClary moved that The Planning Commission approve the Final Plat application of Alexander Lewis and the City of South Burlington for the two lot subdivision of 1301 Shelburne Rd, known as lot #4 behind Chittenden County Volk$wagen with Holmes Road frontage as depicted on a plan entitled "Property South Burlington south end Fire Station, FITZPATRICK-LLEWELLYN INCORPORATED Engineering and Planning Services The Kiln • 15 Brickyard Road • Essex Junction • Vermont • 05452 • (802) 878-3000 3 September 1985 Ms. Jane Bechtel Planner City of South Burlington Dorset Street South Burlington, Vermont 05401 RE: Indian Creek Condominiums Revised Site Plan (Cluster #1) FILE: 8486 Dear Ms. Bechtel: On behalf of our Client, the Vermont Federal Bank, we are herewith submitting revised site plans addressing Cluster #1 of the above -referenced Project. As discussed with you earlier, and as indicated informally during our discussions, the Owner would like to consider "relocating" Cluster #1 (10 units) from its originally -approved site to the westerly extreme of the Project, as shown on the enclosed plans (4 copies each of Site Plan and Overall Site Plan). We've completed our preliminary engineering on the re -located site,as shown, and prefer to to continue with final engineering details only after the Commission's indication that the proposed site is acceptable, and that the preliminary plans are also acceptable to the Fire Chief and the City Engineer. The total number of units will remain unchanged with the new site, and all Project boundary lines will also remain unchanged. The principal reasons for the proposed relocation are aesthetics and the use of more, but smaller, structures to contain the same number of dwelling units. Parenthetically, the new location would probably be viewed as less of an impact on the existing dwellings in Ridgewood, due to proximity, as can be seen on the Overall Site Plan enclosed (Drawing D-1432). The Overall Site Plan shows the remaining open areas of the site, while the Site and Utilities Plan more clearly shows the proposed site's proximity to the Project's boundaries and the pond. Also enclosed is a signed'Application form regarding the revised Site Plan/Final Plat. Design 0 Inspection 0 Studies • Permitting Ms. Jane Bechtel FILE: 8486 3 September 198E Page Two Should you have any questions, or need additional information before the hearing scheduled for the 24th of this month, please don't hesitate to contact us. Again, thanks for your time and assistance with the informal reviews. Sincerely, FITZPATRICK-LLE L YN CORPORATED Douglas R. FitzPatrick, P.E. cc Vermont Federal Bank Peter Side], Esquire DRF:amo FITZPATRICK-LLEWELLYN INCORPORATED Engineering and Planning Services M E M O R A N D U M �V To: South Burlington Planning Commission From: Jane B. Lafleur, City Planner lam' L� Re: November 12, 1985 agenda items Date: November 8, 1985 2) VERMONT FEDERAL BANK, INDIAN CREEK The applicant requests that the discussion of the relocation of Cluster One be postponed until December 10, 1985. Although this had been warned as a Final Plat Public Hearing, the applicant is not ready for the level of detail and instead will request conceptual approval (sketch plan) on December 10, 1985. (see enclosed letter from Douglas Fitzpatrick) 3) LEWIS AND THE CITY OF SOUTH BURLINGTON, 1301 SHELBURNE ROAD The applicant requests approval of this two lot subdivision. It is zoned C-2. The parcel is 2.6 acres and will be subdivided into .5 acres and 2.1 acres. The non -conforming lot received a well publicized variance from the Zoning Board. The lot is the proposed site of a fire substation. The City will be constructing a road into the back of the Lewis property as part of the purchase agreement. 4) ADAMS, 1215 AIRPORT PARKWAY The applicant proposes to construct a 3920 square foot addition to the existing building at 1215 Airport Parkway. It will be built to serve his present welding business and will not result in new employees. Access and Circulation: Access will remain from the 24 foot driveway. Circulation is adequate if the parking lot is used as shown on the plan. Parking: Eleven spaces are required. The applicant proposes 15 in the gravelled parking lot. Parking should be restricted to this area only. Landscaping: A $1100 landscaping plan is shown as required. A bond shall be posted prior to permit. A stockade fence along the western side and -front of the property screens the parking/ storage area. A rail fence exists on the eastern side and front of the property. The rear of the property drops off steeply. Other: See Goddetts and Szymanski's comments. October 4, 1985 Stewart Wooster Vermont Federal Bank 5 Burlington Square Burlington, Vermont 05401 Re: Indian Creek, Cluster One Revision Dear Mr. Wooster: Enclosed are the minutes of the September 24, 1985 Planning Commission meeting. I have tentatively placed the continuation of this on the November 12, 1985 agenda. Be sure to get revised plans to me by November 1. Sincerely, Jane Bechtel Lafleur, City Planner JBL/mcp 1 Encl cc: Douglas Fitzpatrick Peter Sidel November 8, 1985 Douglas Fitzpatrick 15 Brickyard Road Essex Junction, Vermont 05452 Re: Indian Creek Dear Doug: I have placed your request to postpone on the November 12, 1985 agenda. You need not be present at this meeting. Sincerely, Jane B. Lafleur, City Planner JBL/mcp cc: Mr. Wooster No Text Memorandum September 24, 1985 agenda items 9/20/85 Page 2 There shall be no density increase on these parcels or the balance of the residential project. 4) FOXCROFT (CARDINAL WOODS EXTENSION), O'BRIEN The applicant proposes to subdivide the approved 107 unit project into 4 lots. Lot #1 consists of 24 multi -family units and 4 single-family and is 3.32 acres. Lot #2 consists of 6 multi- family units and is 3.09 acres; lot #3 is 3.80 acres with 16 multi -family units and lot #4 is 14.75 acres with 57 single-family units, for a total of 46 multi -family and 61 single-family dwell- ings as originally approved. Legal documents must be filed with private street maintenance clauses. There shall be no increase in density on any of these lots. 5) VERMONT FEDERAL BANK, INDIAN CREEK The applicant proposes to relocate Cluster one from a location on the southern side of the entrance road, 350 from.Dorset Street to a rlew location south of the newly constructed Cluster 3. Cluster One is ten units. The recreational vehicle area must be relocated since a new driveway crosses it. The new layout meets the same standards for parking, setbacks, etc. as the original approval and preserves the aesthetic appeal of the entrance to the development. 6) MARK HILL INVESTMENTS, 5 GREEN MOUNTAIN DRIVE The applicant proposes to construct anll,250 square foot addition to the 3600 square foot existing building (Mienke Muffler) and a new 11,925 square foot building on the 90,000 square foot lot. The proposed use is automotive parts, repair sales and service or storage and distribution facilities. These received conditional use approval from the ZBA. The property is zoned C-2 and is at the southwest corner of"Green Mountain Drive next to Racine AMC/ Jeep. Access and Circulation: Access to the expanded building is from an existing 24 foot wide driveway and a new 24 foot wide driveway