HomeMy WebLinkAboutSD-83-0000 - Decision - 0911 Dorset StreetSepterriber 8, 1983
Sidel and Associates
P.O. BOX 115
Waitsfield, Vermont 05673
Dear Peter:
Be advised that on Auqust 9, 1983 the Indian Creek development was granted
approval to amend the original subdivision plan to include tennis courts and
a swiming pool_.
A copy of the approval imtion is enclosed. Please note the minor changes
required and also the fact that a perforffence bond is required before construction
of the facilities.
If you have any questions please don't hesitate to call.
Very truly,
Richard ward,
Zoning Acbtinistrative Officer
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PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 6, 1983
The South Burlington Planning Commission held a regular meeting on Tuesday,
September 6, 1983 at 7:30 pm in the Conference Room, City Hall, 575 Dorset St.
Members Present
Sidney Poger, Chairman; Mary -Barbara Maher, Peter Jacob, Judy Hurd, John Belter,
William Burgess
Member Absent
George Mona
Others Present
Richard Ward, acting City Planner; Ruth Poger, The Other Paper; Don Melvin, Free
Press; Stephen Page, Peter Sidel, Mike Lawrence, Roger Dickinson, Martin Schmidt,
Louise Larocque, Warren Lyon, James Ewing, David & Kathleen Collette, Len Rubin,
Joyce Collette, Robert Martineau, Kathy Ryan, Ed Smith, Frank Murray, Bruce
Mozhdehi, Duncan Case, David Minnich, Assistant City Manager; J. Pat Brennan,
Gary Farrell, Frank Lidral, Colin Lindburg, Doug Fitzpatrick, Daniel O'Brien, Dave
Desautels
Minutes of August 9, and August 16, 1983
On page 4 of the August 9 minutes, the word "property" in the fourth.line
of the third paragraph should be "properly".
Mrs. Maher moved to approve the August 9, 1983 minutes as corrected and Mr.
Jacob seconded the motion, which carried with all voting aye.
Mr. Jacob moved to approve the minutes of August 16, 1983 and Mrs. Maher
seconded the motion. All voted. in favor.
Continuation of discussion on location of swimming pool for Indian Creek development
Mr. Sidel said he had walked the area with Mike Lawrence of Site Concerns.
There are,,about 8 units which have a direct view of the area containing the pool
and tennis courts. Site Concerns has been asked to screen the area, but also to
provide something which would enhance the area. To this end, they have planned
for vegetation which will change color during the summer. Given the height of
the nearby Ridgewood buildings, it will be several years before the vegetation to
be planted will block their view of this area. Mr. Sidel said that Frank Murray,
who represents Ridgewood, had passed on some concerns of Terry Boyle, a landscape
architect. Mr. Boyle suggested replacing the red maple trees planned with ash
trees, which grow better in clay soil and survive better. He also mentioned moving
the screening toward Ridgewood up the slope to gain some height and Mr. Sidel had
no problem with doing that. Mr. Boyle also mentioned adding some fill to bring
the height up, but Mr. Sidel said that would be expensive and this landscaping
was already costly. Mr. Mike Lawrence said they would like to plant the area in
such a way as to keep the natural feeling and yet still screen the area. He said
there would be no problem moving the vegetation up on the slopes to gain height.
Total cost for all the landscaping shown on the plan was S13,000.
Mr. Jacob asked about pool lighting and was told that all that was planned
was one bulb in the pool for safety reasons.
Mr. Martineau said he was a resident of Indian Creek and that he and others
living in the development supported the request for a pool. He listed the names
of about 10 other residents of the area, for whom he said he spoke.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 6, 1983
Mr. Murray, representing Ridgewood, said they did not oppose the pool at all -
all they oppose is the -proposed location and they want to retain their rights to
make an appeal from the Commission's decision to the courts. He felt a lot of
problems could have beenavoidedif the developerhadearlier proposed this
development as Indian Creek instead of Ridgewood phase III. He said that a
concern at the last meeting had:been the location of a poolhouse and parking.
He wanted to be -sure the parking"area was deleted from the pool area. He said
Mr. Boyle had felt that the location of the entrance to the pool and tennis
courts might encourage people to drive there and he suggested access from the
north be provided. Mr..Murray did not want pool lighting which would encourage
people to use the pool after dark. He wondered how effective the plantings would
be and Mr. Sidel said someone -from Ridgewood could look from the decks when the
plantings areL set in. 'Mr.,Poger said the developer could call the neighbors when
he gets ready to do the planting. Mr. Murray wanted assurance not only that the
plantings would go in, but also that they would go in by a specific time in the
future. Mr. Sidel said he would like to phase in the planting behind the pool,
which will not affect Ridgewood, but the other plantings will go in as soon as
possible. They should go in in the spring. Mr. Poger suggested a date of before
August 1, which should give the developer -plenty of time.
-Mr. Murray asked that the developer report to the board and also inform the
Ridgewood Association president when the plantings are in, so everyone can be
sure they were done as planned. Mr. Sidel noted that city regulations covered
areas like that.
Mr. Murray mentioned the monuments to be set and was told the person who
was going to do that had been very busy lately and they hoped to have it done
by the end of the week. Mr. Poger said no building permits should be issued
until that is done.
Mrs. Maher moved.that the South Burlington Planning Commission approve the
landscaping plan as presented by Site Concerns for the Indian Creek development
with the understanding that 'a bond°of $13,000 be posted and that minor shifts
in location and kind of trees as shown on the plan dated August 26, 1983 will
be allowed in accordance with the requests from the residents of Ridgewood
a from the walkin; path shall be on the north side of the development. Mr. Jacob.;
seconded the motion.
Mr. Sidel noted that if the pool were not allowed due to court action or
other procedural problems, he would not want to put in such extensive landscaping.
Mr. Poger said if that were the case next year, he could come to the board and
request an extension. Since the tennis courts are already approved, Mr. Burgess
noted that it was a question of having the pool and screening or nothing. No
landscaping is required around the tennis courts.
An audience member asked -about the parking area near the tennis courts and
Mr. Sidel said that had been deleted and it would not go in.
Mr. Poger noted that it was the Commission's intention to have two entrances
to the area - one from the road and one from the path.
The motion carried with all voting aye.