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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Bicycle & Pedestrian Committee - 01/13/2021 South Burlington Bike & Pedestrian Committee Meeting Minutes Wednesday, January 13, 2021 @ 5:30 p.m. Meeting was held virtually Committee Attendees: Shawn Goddard, Cathy Frank, Bob Britt, Eric Silverman, Donna Leban, Nic Anderson, Amanda Holland, Havaleh Gagne Other Attendees: Ashley Parker (City Liaison), Jonathon Weber (Local Motion), Jon Adams-Kollitz, Cindi Wight, Max Madalinski, Nicole Losch, Norm Baldwin, Sophie Suave (Burlington staff) 1. Welcome - S. Goddard a. Cathy being timekeeper 2. Changes or additions to the agenda a. None 3. Comments from the public not related to the agenda a. None 4. Consideration of minutes from the previous meeting(s) a. 11/30/2020 Joint Committee meeting with O’Brien developers b. Motion by Cathy, Donna Seconded. All in favor. Eric abstained. Minutes passed. c. Regular Meeting 12/9/2020 d. Motion by Cathy, Donna Seconded. All in favor. Minutes passed. 5. Infrastructure connections between Burlington and South Burlington - Cindi Wight - Burlington Director of Parks, Recreation and Waterfront a. Cindi – Intent was to meet and do introductions of Burlington team (Both BPRW and DPW). Introduced: i. Sophie Suave – Parks Comprehensive Planner ii. Jon Adams-Kollitz (JAK) – Parks Project Coordinator iii. Max Madalinski – Parks Project Coordinator iv. Nicole Losch – DPW Transportation Planner v. Norm Baldwin – DPW City Engineer b. Micro-planning – Connections from Segment 0 to Red Rocks. Macro – East side of Shelburne Rd into the rec network up Lindenwood. c. JAK – Detailed Segment Zero (Phase 3A) – Home Ave to Queen City Parkway (QCP). Talking about how we connect the networks and cross promote. Also Red Rocks as a destination. Also possible Higher Ground as a destination. d. Cathy – We have identified it as a route that desperately needs an upgrade. Obvious need for signs. Detailed connection over Shelburne Rd. Hope to have intersection upgrades. e. Bob - The project has been cancelled so will have to wait. Noted there is a CCRPC scoping project that is supposed to start soon to figure out how to get a rec path from Hannafords to Burlington rec path and sidewalk from waterworks to Red Rocks. f. Nicole – Yes, will be a scoping study to find out all of the costs and options. Expanded beyond Queen City Park and continue down Austin Dr and connections into Oakledge. g. Nic - asked if scope could include Shelburne Rd crossing. h. Shawn noted that the fog lines/bike lanes could be narrowed in the interim on QCP to be able to make better shoulders. This was on the striping priority list for 2020 but did not happen. We are all highly motivated for improvements. i. Cindi – Asked what else. j. Bob – Noted other connections that are important – Williston Rd, Farrell St to Home Ave and Spear Street at athletic facility. Cathy asked about Spear St. Bob – Gap in rec path on street side of playing fields. Donna also mentioned Patchen Road to Grove St. Cathy noted we have been turned down for grants for the Exit 14 bridge. Nicole noted RPC’s 89 improvement study. There are some options in there for exit changes. Next public meeting in March. No other near-term improvements planned for those other areas as noted by committee members. k. Shawn – Is there opportunity to have regular meetings with Burlington to coordinate better and have good connections and relationships. l. Cindi asked how the bike-ped group fits into City government. m. Shawn detailed the committee. Nic added that we are pretty hands on in helping get things done. Not a depth of employees at the City. n. Nicole – Noted that there could be a connection with the Burlington Bike Walk Council too. o. Shawn – Could beta test this relationship using the Queen City Parkway needs and project. Detailed committee desires for short- and long-term solutions for QCP. p. Donna noted that the one lane bridge is a challenge. Nicole noted there is a study for the replacement but it comes down to money. q. Shawn asked if its important to connect with BWBC or CCRPC more. Nicole noted that BWBC are aware of all draft work plans and give input, it is just a different structure. r. JAK – Meeting a couple of times per year could be helpful. A lot to gain on both sides. Have greenway status plans Max can show. s. Norm – Noted relationships and investment and how they all fit. t. Max – Detailed GIS mapping using ESRI ArcGIS Online and a tool that can help provide information to the public directly. Can be integrated into any websites. u. JAK – For the Greenway, they plow half for walking/biking and “Ski to the East”. Once connected with other trails and their snow conditions can be used to have larger skiing missions. v. Shawn – Who would be the best people to connect with on a future meeting? Sophie from Parks and Nicole from DPW. Norm noted that anything within QCP would be his domain. Include Cindi on any meetings. 6. Updates from the City - Ashley (6:15 p.m. - 10min) a. Ashely encouraged committee members to review budget video from City Council. Wanted to remind to discuss the Shelburne Rd Impact Fees discussion next time. Also shared on a small grant from VTRANS that came up today and might be good fit for crosswalks. Could discuss as part of crosswalk priorities agenda item. b. Bob asked about Allen Road progress on documents. Lots going on. c. Ashley - Attorney has to review bid documents. Hope to pick someone by March/April. Hope to be completed by fall. Date for Dorset St public meeting is our next committee meeting. 7. O’Brien Eastview Development - All (6:25 p.m. - 20min) a. Reviewing request from Marla on SBBPC recommendations. b. Cathy – Noted roads that connect to Kennedy. Supposedly we already said a lane is fine. Didn’t remember that. c. Bob – Yes, that was part of previous discussion. But was 8ft width. d. Nic – Seems like this is the densest section of the entire development and needs a rec path. e. Bob – We may be stuck with it based on our 2016 review. Believe that it has a rec path on west side and sidewalk on east side. f. Shawn asked for clarification of what the DRB wanted. Ashley noted could do two ways. Could do recommendations now and draft memo or just include in minutes with formal action that we all agree. g. Reviewed request from Marla. Bob – Concerns with southern end of Old Farm Road having no facilities because its out of the area of the project. h. Question on if the sidewalks proposed if they would extend to Hinesburg. i. Shawn – Can we just say we have concerns about connectivity to Hinesburg Rd along Old Farm Road. How specific do we need to be? Can we just let them work it out? j. Bob – Goal is to be able to get people through to Kimball. k. Donna – Under the impression that traffic would be slowed on Old Farm. I would be OK with sidewalks. Should be on both sides. Concerned there are no rec paths. Concerned it is a speedway at present. Still need traffic calming on southern section and sidewalk. l. Shawn – So a sidewalk on one side of the road? m. Jon – Would like to see what traffic calming etc. is. Really need some details on that. n. Nic – Why don’t we just say that we have a concern on that southern section and that they should address it somehow. o. Havaleh – Concerned about 116 and safety. Worried about getting people down to there but then being in a dangerous situation. p. Bob – There will be improvements at Tilley Drive. O’Brien Brothers have said that the plan is to put a rec path along the “Industrial-Commercial Road” planned to connect Tilley Drive to Kimball Avenue. q. Nic – Still think there should be ramps at any stairs. r. Nic – Would have concerns about any on-street parking. Priority to minimize conflict points at driveways. s. Cathy – DRB already aware of paths crossing driveways being dangerous. Bob – Other locations in the Phase 1 development have the path crossing driveways. t. Havaleh – Could have bike lanes on the road on opposite side of parking or sidewalk. u. Shawn – Could be generic. v. Amanda – Looks like roads are narrow. May not be a problem. Otherwise we would be asking for wider roads which may make it easier for faster driving conditions that is not desired. w. Nic would recommend 10-foot paths and leave as designed. x. Amanda – With regard to on-street parking if there is little of it, it may be a minor issue. y. Narrow roads do slow people down. They will be active neighborhoods with basketball etc. z. Jon – Pinch points built could help people to drive slower when there are no cars on the street. Small bump outs. aa. Nic – Would like to see more detail on possible connection to Tilley Dr but concerned its out of the scope of the project. bb. Donna would be good to have enough street trees etc. Nic recommends lighting and amenities such as park benches etc. cc. Shawn will go over meeting minutes and flesh out response a little better and have either Cathy or Bob finish it up. dd. Ashley – The sooner we can get it to Marla the better. 8. Crosswalk Priorities - Crosswalk Subgroup (6:45 p.m. - 20min) a. Nic detailed the list that is in packet. Reasons for breaking them out between easy and hard. Included summary for Songbird Crosswalk. Detailed the preliminary assessment. Thinks this is a potential crosswalk that could be safely done. b. Havaleh – Like summary. Would like to think about where they are in relation to schools. Sub-Committee could take another look to make sure. c. Shawn asked what next steps are. d. Ashley – One concern with 116 Crosswalks is about the state road aspect. Not sure how that would impact the project. e. Nic – Eric has been reaching out to Jon Kaplan. f. Shawn – We need to get Prouty done. Need to understand VTRANS component but need to get going. g. Ashley – Need to make sure we have enough information for scoping and grant securing possibilities. h. Bob – Justin had asked for the list and he would be able to assess which ones could be done. Should this be done in a meeting with Justin. i. Ashley – Any of the crosswalks that have been scoped would be the best for grant application. Will follow up with Justin. Grant ones are more time sensitive. Figuring out possible costs are and what are most appropriate. Will connect back with Nic. j. Nic – I think the larger ones could be the grant ones and the easier ones could be done through Penny for Paths. k. Ashely with meet with Justin and work out next steps for grant application. 9. Facilitation of improved bike/auto/ped interaction – multiple people. Proposed language for response to council – Shawn a. Sub-group input on what actions their groups propose to improve these interactions (Communication - Cathy, Engagement - Havaleh, Safety - Bob, Signage - Donna) b. In the interest of time, Shawn asked sub-committee leads to email him their comments. 10. Neighborhood Schools Greenway Update - Nic a. Bumped to February 11. Updates: Ongoing Committee Work - Any/All a. Did not get to this item in time 12. Confirmation: Next meeting Wednesday, February 10, 2020 @ 5:30pm a. Key item on this agenda is Dorset Street Path public hearing. b. Will have Neighborhood Schools Greenway item c. Discuss drafted safety letter. 13. Adjourn a. Motion by Shawn to adjourn. Nic Seconded. Adjourned 8.09pm.